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I am on sub and have no intention of tapering off 35%  35%  [ 6 ]
I am on sub and intend on tapering off in the future 24%  24%  [ 4 ]
I am on sub and have not decided whether I will remain on it long term or taper off. 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
I am on sub and am currently tapering 12%  12%  [ 2 ]
i was on sub and have succesfully gotten off of it 24%  24%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: your journey on sub
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:28 pm 
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I do plan on eventually tapering off my sub and know this decision is different for everyone so I was curious to know what people's plans are when it comes to sub. Please feel free to share why you made the choice you did. To those who participate I thank you in advance!


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The reason I choose to stop suboxone was for many reason the main one being I needed to stop Suboxone to start methadone. But a lot more things came into play as why I wanted off Suboxone just not pain management.

I don’t want to ruin this thread or get into any more arguments about this so I am simply going to say when I started Suboxone I was not on any other medications and after 5 years of being on suboxone I am now on 6 separate medications that all started while on suboxone. Mental health medications, serious sleeping medications, I am on serious constipation medications not OTC stuff, also am on blather medications because suboxone really messed with my urinary health. I am 24 years old and I have already had a colonoscopy and a chistoscopy. And i will leave it at that because yes i dont know if all of what i am thinking and want to say is true or false and that is why i am not posting it.

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I chose I am on sub w/ the intention of tapering. I have been on sub for 3 months and will probably start to reduce my dose in the next month or 2. The reason being, my addiction was pretty short lived around 8-9 months. I do not feel I will require sub maintenance for a long period. Also I do not feel completely like myself on sub and want to again. Sub is an amazing med when used the right way and the right way is different for everyone. For me it was to help me snap out of this part of my life and continue on completely opiate free. I want to feel clear headed again and more than anything just feel again. The good and the bad.


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I was on Sub for almost 3 years. The reasons I got off of it are because I didn't like being so dependent on it, I didn't really care for not being completely myself while on it, I couldn't stand the fact that my Sub doctor would raise her prices every frickin' visit.....she had us over a barrel, and she knew it. Another reason I wanted off of it was because I thought I had reached a point in my recovery where I could live completely narcotic free. Lastly and most importantly, I just KNEW it was my time to stop taking it, I KNEW it in my heart and soul.

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 Post subject: Re: your journey on sub
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:47 am 
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Breezy_Ann wrote:
I do plan on eventually tapering off my sub and know this decision is different for everyone so I was curious to know what people's plans are when it comes to sub. Please feel free to share why you made the choice you did. To those who participate I thank you in advance!



I voted for:
"I am on sub and have no intention of tapering off."
I am currently on 4 mg of Suboxone.
My state insurance does cover 3 months' worth of my medication
with a prior aurhorization from my sub doctor.

However, at some point in time, I do believe that my insurance
will stop paying for my subs.
At that point, I will be forced to taper to a lower dosage;
and I will be forced to pay cash for my subs.

Furthermore, I do believe that everyone is different;
and I do respect everyone's individual choice in this matter.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:08 pm 
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Yes, I have the money problem as well, my insurance doesn't cover my doc or meds. I pay around $550 a month and do not think I can keep it up much longer. I would still plan on tapering off one day but if it didn't cost so much money I wouldn't do it as soon as it looks like I will have to.


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 Post subject: Good Topic
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:57 pm 
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Hi Breezy,

A great discussion to get going. Considering we seem to be the experts on Sub maintenance, our opinions are far different than our Sub doctors.

What I mean by that is Dr. Junig says a patient should be on it for at least six months to a year and in a recovery program. And he also states that some have such trouble staying clean that they should stay on it for life. So he says both.

My original Sub doctor said almost the same thing. Taper slowly over a years period and if by then I feel I can't stay clean without it, then we'll keep you on it as long as you like. He also said there is no shame in taking a legal drug to function normally in society. And I fully agree with that.

Now my new doctor is firm on all patients tapering off in six months. I think the reason for that is because I live in Las Vegas and we've had a huge drug problem here for years and he's just trying to treat as many addicts as possible because of the 100 patient cap.

So that brings up another problem. The 100 patient cap. If a lot of addicts/pain patients decide to stay on it for life, what about those who really need treatment and the caps are full city wide? If they'd just lift that part then maybe most would accept insurance and stop this "Cash Only" bullcr**.

It breaks my heart and makes me mad to read of my fellow friends here who either don't have insurance, their insurance won't cover treatment, or the doctor demands cash only. So what choice do we have but to taper and jump, and possibly relapse? That isn't good medicine IMO.

Okay, that's my Rant for today. This has always pissed me off. I have insurance and they pay for most all of it. How the rest of you do it I don't know. I do know I cannot afford another $500 per month for Sub unless I go homeless, so my hat is off to you who can do it. You must be very good at budgets!

Thanks Breezy_Ann for this post. It's a goodie.


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Hi Rule,

Yes it pisses me off too. I think the 100 patient cap is the root of most of the problems when it comes to sub Dr.s if a Dr. can only have 100 patients and if they are all on a maintenance dose that would mean he only see's them once monthly which can't be enough revenue. I think you are right in that this causes a lot of drs to take cash only to make the much needed money. It is highly expensive to run a private practice. I think the cap also allows the bad drs to stay in business. Once all the informed caring drs are full, what choice do people have other than to see another Dr. I have heard the argument that only psychiatrists or addiction specialists should be able to prescribe this medicine. I do not think that is the answer as it would make it even harder to get sub treatment. Take away the cap and the problem corrects itself. You wouldn't go to a podiatrist to get your heart medications and the reason isn't because the podiatrist can't prescribe heart meds, its because you don't have to. There is no cap on how many patients a cardiologist can see so you are able to make the choice as the consumer to see a doctor who specializes in the area in which you need help. I think the same would happen for sub treatment if they lifted the cap. This is what you get from govt officials who think a regulation will help get a patient better care, they don't look at the bigger picture and the unintended consequences.


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 Post subject: Re: your journey on sub
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:31 pm 
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Voted for- I was on sub and have successfully gotten if if it.

After i started on suboxone I knew right away I didn't want to be on it forever and knew I had to taper off.
It caused a lot of digestive problems for me & really screwed with me mentally and physically.
I do have insurance but it was still costing me close to a hundred dollars a month to see my doctor and get my script.
Honestly,it wouldn't of mattered to me if it was free. Sub didn't agree with me body or mind & I'm happy to be free of it.




Breezy_Ann wrote:
I do plan on eventually tapering off my sub and know this decision is different for everyone so I was curious to know what people's plans are when it comes to sub. Please feel free to share why you made the choice you did. To those who participate I thank you in advance!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:43 pm 
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Bboy,
Wow, that's crazy as hell but not surprising to me at all! This stuff really does a number on your body. I was on methadone maintenance before for about three years and I never had any if the stomach issues like I had while taking sub (for less than 1yr) No depression either. I still felt like myself. It was way easier to taper off of too! Did you feel a huge difference after you made the switch?


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The reason I choose to stop suboxone was for many reason the main one being I needed to stop Suboxone to start methadone. But a lot more things came into play as why I wanted off Suboxone just not pain management.

I don’t want to ruin this thread or get into any more arguments about this so I am simply going to say when I started Suboxone I was not on any other medications and after 5 years of being on suboxone I am now on 6 separate medications that all started while on suboxone. Mental health medications, serious sleeping medications, I am on serious constipation medications not OTC stuff, also am on blather medications because suboxone really messed with my urinary health. I am 24 years old and I have already had a colonoscopy and a chistoscopy. And i will leave it at that because yes i dont know if all of what i am thinking and want to say is true or false and that is why i am not posting it.

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I really love to watch them roll
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I just had to let it go.
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Great poll. It would be good to get a heap of results in. So far I'm surprised more people desire to stay on than taper off.

I would consider staying on sub if it weren't for the travel restrictions, and the fact I can't just get a monthly supply at once in my country. I basically need to go to a pharmacy approx 3 times a week, and can only ever get 2 weeks at any one time with special permission.

Also, I find it hard to conceded defeat with drug dependence of any kind. I'd be happier to stay on a medication that's not dependence forming for life, like Lithium, than one that is, like SSRI's, and Suboxone. Can't give a valid reason for it though.

I'm gunna get off this goddarn'd island one day!


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