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If You Could Start All Over, Would You Still Do Drugs?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:08 pm 
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So here is the question:

If you could start all over, with knowing what know now-

do you think that you would still do drugs?

Either way you answer, please explain why you feel that way.

I'll start.

I would answer "Yes." Why? Well, although I do have a few regrets,
I do believe that my brain is somehow hard-wired to be an addictive personality.
With that said, the only time I have ever felt "normal" in my life is when I am on opioids-
right now- I am on Suboxone 4 mg per day.
As well, I believe that I would be much too curious to want to experiment with
certain substances. (I really can't think of any other reasons why I would still
do them- but if I do, I will edit or re-post.)

Have fun with this one.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:27 pm 
I voted "no" and I would add, "Hell No!"
I was about 40 years old when I first felt any euphoria/high from taking drugs and my opiate abuse/addiction spiraled fairly quickly and severely out of control. It cost me my career of nearly 20 years, my reputation, my self worth, a fairly large earning potential, retirement, etc and it almost cost me my marriage.
So, absolutely......had I known right then, when I first began to abuse opiates, where it would lead and what it would cost me.....I would have stopped before I became dependent and addicted to them.
I will add, though, that this type of discussion is rather counterproductive for me. I've already spent way to much time with regrets and sorrow and wishing I could change the past. Fact is, I can't....none of us can. It is was it is, it happened the way it happened and that's the way it must have had to be. Difficult to accept? For me....oh my gosh, yes!
But I'm leaving it behind and trying as hard as I can to look forward instead of back.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:42 pm 
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I don't find it counterproductive one bit. I voted, "yes", too, and for reasons I've mentioned on this forum many times before.

After living through active addiction and getting on suboxone, I'm a MUCH better, happier, more confident, and all around better person than I was even pre-addiction. So for me it was all worth it and I'd do it all over again just in order to get to where I am today.

Sometimes we have to look at the big picture and force ourselves to see the positive side of things and say "BULLSHIT" to holding onto regrets.

If anyone else thinks this is counterproductive, I'd say don't post in this thread. Telling the rest of us what we should or shouldn't discuss is rather closed-minded, in my opinion, and some could even say counterproductive in its own right.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:50 pm 
My, my....you okay there Hatmaker? Very defensive today....don't think I said a thing about what anyone else "should or shouldn't discuss..."


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:47 pm 
Yes, due to the pain of a failed back surgery, hip replacement, defibrillator, herniated C4-5 with nerve impingement, and getting broadsided by a semi truck at 50mph and multiple fractures, pneumothorax and CHI> Yeah, I would have been in a curled up fetal position for years.

Now after 6 years im giving it a try off the narcs. We'll see.
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Wow, you're not kidding setmefree, Hatmaker is very defensive today. I wonder what that's all about?

setmefree said, "...this type of discussion is rather counterproductive for me.".....not for anyone else, but for setmefree.

The fact that setmefree posted in this thread, while thinking the discussion is counterproductive, doesn't strike me as a capital offense.....she's expressing her opinion.

If only we could all be so awesome as to say BULLSHIT to holding onto our regrets and have them all magically melt away, what a wonderful world it would be. Saying BULLSHIT to holding onto our regrets seems so simple and straightforward, why aren't we all doing that and living happily ever after??

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You are indeed right....SMF, you said it was counterproductive for YOU. I apologize for misreading that.

And calling me defensive about it was unnecessary, but not a huge deal. Whatever.

However, Romeo there was no need for you to jump into this fray just for the hell of it and it's clear that's what you did it for. This applies nowhere more than when you were being sarcastic about the way I deal with regrets and my recovery. Let me be clear, if you did that to another member, I would be warning you right now - in fact, I don't know why I'm not. Attacking another person's recovery in such a way as you did - with dripping sarcasm - "if we could all be so awesome...". And that's the only way I can possibly interpret your last paragraph. NO ONE on this forum deserves to be treated that way.

Lastly, let's just get back to the topic. This is a fairly new member's thread so let's show some support. And it could be a good discussion. Otherwise, if what you have to say is off-topic, send me a PM.

**Exorphin: Are we having fun yet? Sorry this was highjacked and I only hope that it can return to your topic right now, with no further interruptions.

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I felt that what you said to SMF was out of line and NO ONE on this fourm deserves to be treated that way, especially by a Moderator. I thought I'd try to illustrate this to you by making a sarcastic comment about something you said. My tactics may have been unprofessional, but they got your attention.

Hat, you and I have known each other long enough that this was the only way I felt I would get through to you.

To be clear, I was not attacking your recovery, I was being a smart ass trying to get a point across to you.

If you feel I need a warning, then give me a warning. None of us here are above the law, including you. Your comments to SMF could be construed as a personal attack.....calling her closed minded. Maybe we should both get warnings??

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hatmaker510 wrote:
You are indeed right....SMF, you said it was counterproductive for YOU. I apologize for misreading that.

And calling me defensive about it was unnecessary, but not a huge deal. Whatever.

However, Romeo there was no need for you to jump into this fray just for the hell of it and it's clear that's what you did it for. This applies nowhere more than when you were being sarcastic about the way I deal with regrets and my recovery. Let me be clear, if you did that to another member, I would be warning you right now - in fact, I don't know why I'm not. Attacking another person's recovery in such a way as you did - with dripping sarcasm - "if we could all be so awesome...". And that's the only way I can possibly interpret your last paragraph. NO ONE on this forum deserves to be treated that way.

Lastly, let's just get back to the topic. This is a fairly new member's thread so let's show some support. And it could be a good discussion. Otherwise, if what you have to say is off-topic, send me a PM.

**Exorphin: Are we having fun yet? Sorry this was highjacked and I only hope that it can return to your topic right now, with no further interruptions.




Oh yeah, lots of fun...

No need for you to be sorry because it is not your fault that this thread was hijacked...

So, let's keep it on topic, please.

Thanks!

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Yes if I could do it all over again I would take the same path I choose. Because my addiction made me who I am today and I know some may call me crazy for saying this but I am happy with the person I have become sure I am on methadone sure I have pain but this is me and I like me. But more than anything this also is how I choose my career choice as well I am real close to taking my ksap and I want to help people with the same problems I had. I mean what better feeling could there be than knowing you saved one person life or helped a kid today I mean I want to share my knowledge to help others. And if I do well and get into the field of a chemical dependency specialist I really would like to focus on people like myself as in young athletes being treated with pain meds to go back on the baseball diamond, or hockey rink and so on when they are ready and not rush things or use every game to dual the pain. I mean I could keep going on and on about this but I will leave it at that.


But man everyone around hear gets along so well usually but it is upsetting to see such kind people get into these arguments. I just wish we could all get along :roll: But on a serious note you are all kind helpfull members hear so lets get back to helping people.


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I vote a big HELL NO! The only thing my addiction gave me was a whole lot of debt I can't pay and a husband that has a hard time trusting me. I am finally getting my house back in order. I was a neat freak pre addiction and was just doing the minimal during. I was lucky enough to stop using within 9 months of starting. Had I not I can't even imagine how much bigger the mess I had made in my life could have become. I guess one positive I can take from my addiction is that I have found the right medication and dose for my depression and in that aspect am feeling better than I have in a long time.


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Hell NO!

I went from one of those kids who everyone said would go places, to (at my worst) being a homeless criminal. I can't imagine where I would be today if I never touched drugs. Potentially I might not even need to be on medications for bipolar. Potentially I might not have bipolar!

Thinking about it gets me down a bit.


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Thanks, everyone, for getting my thread back on topic.

I must say that it is interesting to read other peoples' viewpoints
on this particular subject-
without all of the unnecessary bickering.

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