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 Post subject: Why no withdrawal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:38 am 
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I have been taking suboxone off and on for about three months maybe a little less. Before that I had used opioids for about six months over a kidney stone that wouldn't go away and that I couldn't get surgery for. Waiting for Obama care to kick in. Anyways I'm on day seven after stoping cold turkey. I had been doing one strip a day for the aforementioned time however the last day I had two 5mg pills that I took and after that nothing. My question is why am I not experiencing withdrawal. Everyone I know says I should be thinking God but I'm not so sure I'm out of the woods yet. Other than cravings I really haven't experienced anything bad yawning and teary eyes but that's it. Is this normal ? Is the hammer getting ready to fall ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:51 am 
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I have been taking suboxone off and on for about three months maybe a little less. Before that I had used opioids for about six months over a kidney stone that wouldn't go away and that I couldn't get surgery for. Waiting for Obama care to kick in. Anyways I'm on day seven after stoping cold turkey. I had been doing one strip a day for the aforementioned time however the last day I had two 5mg pills that I took and after that nothing. My question is why am I not experiencing withdrawal. Everyone I know says I should be thinking God but I'm not so sure I'm out of the woods yet. Other than cravings I really haven't experienced anything bad yawning and teary eyes but that's it. Is this normal ? Is the hammer getting ready to fall ?

Hi Aristocalese! I don't know for sure of course, but to me it sounds like since you weren't taking it "regularly" (you said off and on), you never really became dependent? If so, yes, I would be thanking God for sure! From what I have learned on this forum, by day 7 you should either be "peaking" or have "hit" the worst of the withdrawals.
Maybe others will have a different opinion??
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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:22 am 
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Wow that was fast. I mean don't get me wrong it was more on then off but for the most part that's what the deal was. Right now I've got a slight stomach ache but it's probably just a placebo effect like I think I'm supposed to feel sick so I am feeling sick. Have you ever heard someone starting their withdrawal phase after day seven cause at 6pm today it will be day seven.


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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:00 am 
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If you're at day 7 with no Suboxone, what you're feeling now should be the worst of it.

Like Butterflying said, you probably didn't develop a full dependence on it. Are you an addict? Were you abusing your pain meds? If you're not really an addict, that works in your favor for wd, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
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Short term opiate users tend to come off subs easy, according to my addiction doc, who is very good and very experienced.

Count your blessings!

If, at a certain point, you feel you can't handle the cravings on your own, you can get some suggestions here about how to deal with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:25 am 
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What is considered short term for both the opioid and the suboxone


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IMO,
short term = 3-6 mo. for "actual physical pain" (like you)
Long term = 8 years - unprescribed (like me)

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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
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What BF said.

But for some of us, short-term turned into long-term because we found we couldn't stop ourselves from going back to opiates. If you're feeling this pull, don't downplay it.

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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
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What do you think though is the worst over or is it the calm before the storm?


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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
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Its hard to say because everyone is different. Some people taper off subs and never feel a day of wds and some experience weeks of low energy after the initial acute phase is over.

for me, I jumped off at 2 mgs and the shit didnt hit the fan until day 7 and lasted well into the 16th day or so. Been off subs a month now and feel just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Why no withdrawal
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run don't walk, ie don't look for issues it will make you look for more reasons. just move on if you can. don't surround yourself with thoughts, if you were in w/d ill tell you the same.


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