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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:15 pm 
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Has anyone else experienced this: cutting up your suboxone pills to make them smaller. Like the good addict that you are you look for the bigger chunks first in your bottle of cut pills. Of course you feel obligated to let yourself take a little chip here and there with the smaller ones because they can't possibly be the right dose you need to take. I'm just being brutally honest about my frustration. This is what I personally run into when trying to eyeball down 8 mg pills into .5 mg pieces. Why can't they make .5 mg .25 mg .1 mg ect pills for people to use to taper all the way down to zero?


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lol thats funny..the bigger piece... i did that all the time..as far as the low doses im not sure i kno subutex makes much lower doses..but as far as soboxone mayb becuase it would be bad for buisness if people tapered off...great drug..but they are still a company concerned with profit


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Man doesn't it seem like addiction permeates into every area of our lives. If one multi vitamin is what the recommended dosage is, then we need at least 2. We're rather Amish aren't we.. we do what ever normal people do plus a half. But the Subtex thing. I'm not familiar with that med. What's the difference between suboxone and subtex? What dose levels does subtex come in?


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i heard somewhere that they have like a .25 dose...but i am having trouble finding info on it...i wish i would have gotten on that before i jumped there is no naloxone..i also heard that the naloxone in suboxone can block your natural endorphins..making it very differcult when stopping the suboxone


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subutex is suboxone with out the naloxone


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nalxone if I'm not mistaken is also what blocks the uptake of opiates or the ability to get high from them? Do most addiction Doc's give that stuff out?


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yea naloxone is what stops people from being able to shoot up suboxone..and also its what blocks other opiates..like if u tryed to take sum painmeds a day after suboxone you wouldnt feel them much if at all...umm most doctors dont liek to becuase they liek the fact that u wont get high while on suboxone with the naloxone in it...but i believe if ur tapering off and ur down to really small doses they will give it to u ...i never asked tho ..wish i did


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Wow this is great information. I haven't been to my addiction specialist in a long time. He gave me enough pills for 6 months after I began tapering down and they have lasted for a lot longer than that for me (thankfully). I'm going to find out if he will prescribe them to me so I can manage my dosage more efficiently. Thanks for the info.


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The naloxone in Suboxone is INacitve...meaning it doesn't do anything if you take the pill sublingually. It's only there to deter people from injecting the pills. Naloxone dosen't do squat when taken orally. It's the buprenorphine that blocks the effects of other opiates should you try to relapse. buprenorphine binds very strongly to the opiate receptors, keeping any other opiates in your system from having a chance to get you high.

The drug some people take to block opiates is naltrexone.

Regarding breaking your pills into small enough doses to taper - its easier if you mix the pill with water and measure it out that way. You can get the dose as small as you want that way.

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I know this is going to sound really dumb, but can you give directions on what you mean by mix with water. How to do it and measure out your dosage.


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Liquid Sub Taper Method

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Hi Diary, I want to thank you so much for your post. I plan on trying the liquid method. Could you post a time table of your reduction schedule? When you stepped from one dose level to another did you alternate dose amounts for the first few days and then step down to the lower amount?


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