No worries. At a minimum you need to get into a recognized Suboxone program, get on 8 mg or 16 mg and stay on them for 12 to 18 months minimum before even thinking of tapering given your 10+ years abusing full agonist opiates. That’s not my opinion, that’s what all the medical and scientific research has shown to be effective. In addition, psychotherapy is required. Again, this is the MINIMUM it takes to have a shot at long term clean time from opiates. Otherwise, you’re facing a 90% - 95% relapse rate.owlcrow wrote:There is no way I can afford or would consider going to inpatient treatment. Been there done that. I had gone to a place called Narconon a few years back and it did not help. Just like all other places I had been to. They have you go to meetings hear old war stories and I have never had any productive results from that atmosphere.
Hence suboxone, which has worked in the past and will work again.
I totally disagree with you saying treatment is the only way. The treatment centers don't work for everyone.
I would rather get back to a place where I take more pride in my life get back to some good clean fun and leave the drugs behind. Not all people get the same results from treatment. I had poor results and find that by setting goals reaching them and reaping those benefits work best for me.
Ok since I got that covered. (no treatment center for me). I had another decent day. I woke feeling tired although I worked hard yesterday at work and after work. I got by on 2 mgs. and did not use anything else! I think I will stay at 2 mgs for a week or so and then see how it's going before moving ahead.
Will continue to post as the future unwinds.
Can't wait till the long weekend I'm going drag racing with a few buddy's, I made plans that I know won't involve any drugs I am already working on lifestyle changes. And feel much better about things than just a couple of days ago. I am coming around
You went to Narconon? I don’t consider a Scientology “rehab” facility a top notch inpatient program. In fact, it’s nothing more than an insurance scam meant to appeal to 12 step haters. Is this the rehab you made it 4 days before checking out? L Ron Hubbard’s “detox sauna” didn’t work? I’m shocked! LOL! https://www.thefix.com/content/narconon ... n?page=all . It’s good you got out of there in 4 days before they shipped you off to their planet Xenu. I wonder if they have heroin on planet Xenu.....hmmmm?
Suboxone is a great tool to help you in your recovery. My insurance company has joined a few others that now strongly insists that inpatient treatment needs to be followed up by a several month long IOP program that utilizes MAT of Vivitrol, Suboxone/Sublocade, or methadone otherwise they won’t pay for IOP. Simply attending a inpatient program without Suboxone and psychotherapy and IOP has an equally dismal relapse rate (91% relapse according to this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20669601 ).