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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:45 am 
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Hey everyone I'm new, so really I have no idea how to use this site so please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong. Anyway I have been on 20mgs of suboxone for 4 months now, I had a rather large addiction to codiene. I'm finding that even though I'm on a pretty high dose, I'm still craving codeine and wanting to feel euphoric and high. I don't really understand since suboxone is meant to stop all that? Anyway any advice would be fantastic, thank you all so much in advance


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:14 pm 
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Hello, and welcome to the forum!

There are a couple different kinds of cravings for opioid addicts. First, we have the physical cravings that plague us when we try to cold turkey off our drug of choice. Second, we have psychological cravings in some circumstances. For me, for example, the day I was induced on suboxone, I went from thinking of nothing but getting my hands on some oxycodone to being amazed that I could think of other things besides drugs. I've been on buprenorphine now for over 6 years. There have been times that I think about what it would be like to get high again. Fortunately, that doesn't happen very often.

My point to you is that you are probably experiencing psychological cravings. A lot of us have deep seated pain from trauma, painful memories, long term depression. On suboxone, you still have to deal with your addiction. In fact, if you don't, someday you may come off suboxone and you will be right back where you started. I want to let you know that it's not unusual to want to go back to that warm cocoon where you feel happy and so content. But you have to question why that still appeals to you.

I have two suggestions. First, find an addiction therapist who is well versed in cognitive behavioral therapy. CBT is great for changing harmful thought patterns. Second, find a SMART Recovery meeting near you or online. Here's the link for finding a meeting:

https://www.smartrecovery.org/local/

I like SMART because it gives practical help and ideas to addicts. They have no opinion on people who are on medication for their addiction.

If these first two ideas don't work for you, you might need to find an intensive outpatient program to get your head in the right place. You will be much better off if you are working on your recovery.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:09 am 
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It is possible you are taking the medication completely wrong. Most suboxone doctors just say "here you go" and dont even make sure you are taking it properly, to ensure you are getting the most absorption that you can.

Are you making sure you are keeping your mouth closed and not swallowing AT ALL until the film is dissolved??? I had to teach everyone in my suboxone group the correct way to take it because we were never taught properly. Most people smoke, drink, talk, and do whatever else they want while their film is "dissolving", and then wonder why they are still getting cravings at extremely high doses such as what you take. Once I started taking it properly, I was able to get all the way down to 4mg/day (SLOWLY) without ANY noticable effects.

I had to learn this on my own, through this forum. Stick around, you will learn A LOT. I guarantee you are not getting proper absorption by not taking the dose properly. So many peoiple have no idea they arent taking it the right way and then once they do, they notice a HUGE difference and find they can even lower their dose with no problems whatsoever. Can you walk us through your dosing process so we can better understand? Like how do you take it, how long does it take for the medication to be completely dissolved? Do you do anything while the film is dissolving, such as smoke, talk, or swallow your spit???

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I went through a period of missing my drug of choice. The obsession was gone, like Amy I immediately started being able to have peace again. That obsessing was over but I still felt like something was missing..... not a lot or anything major, but just something nagging like the lifestyle change. U know, the chasing the drugs, the routine of it all, when u take that away u start feeling like something is missing. That will go away if that's possibly what ur feeling.

Seeing an addiction counselor and going to some type of meetings are the number one priority imo. Once u start finding out how normal ur feelings are, you'll not be so worried about it. Fill ur time with healthy things that u enjoyed before addiction or things u always found interesting. I now love love gardening. It's something I could do all day long if I wanted to. Anything to fill that void.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:37 pm 
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Jess,

Thank you for suggesting the possibilities of incorrect "usage" of the film. I am also new to this forum but have been on 8mg of sub for 4+ years (along with drug abuse counseling & psychiatric care for my dual diagnosis). I was really never instructed how to properly take the film either, but it seemed to work great the first couple of years I was on it. However, the past year or so Ive noticed the impact deminish quite a bit. I know I used to do very little when taking my once daily dose and I know I became more lax with that as time went on. Ive suspected impropper use could be the issue so Ive tried to go back to focusing on only the film in my mouth until its gone, however so far I cannot find a 'procedure' that makes a difference. Are there any other suggestions you can share about how to approoriately take the film to maximize the benefit if the medicine?


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