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Since this is my first post in this forum, please let me introduce myself. I am a 32 year old female (college educated, ABJ '99 from UGA) who has been on suboxone for 15 months. I had been an active opiate abuser for 10 years, using everything from hydrocodone to using fent patches sublingually or smoking (No IV).I cannot express how grateful I am to have this drug at my disposal. Without it, I would not be able to function in life, period. Fantastic medication.

After about six weeks into my Suboxone treatment (16mg daily), I was bitten by a dog on my right hand. My right palm had puncture wounds and the tissue was torn from my hand, leaving a gaping wound that needed immediate attention. I went to the closest ER to get attention, figuring that I only needed to have stitches. The wound was so jagged, there was no way they could have sewn it shut. Upon arrival, I told the doctors and nurses that I was on Suboxone treatment and none of them even knew what it was. I was given a shot of toradol to help with the pain, which surprisingly worked pretty well. My hand was cleaned and wrapped up and I was given a referral to see a doctor within three days and a script for Ultram.

To make a long story short, after three visits to the Burn Center and Advanced Wound Clinic, I was scheduled for surgery within two days. All of this came to me as a surprise. Right after pre-op (in which I told the anethesiologist about my Suboxone and addiction problems), I called my Suboxone doctor to set up an appt. to discuss what we were going to do. It was up to me on whether to remain on Suboxone and be treated post-op with non-narcotic pain relievers OR cease taking the bupe and get on a short acting full mu-agonist opiate (Percocet 10/325). I decided on the Percocet 10 because Ultram was not even denting the pain and caused great gastrointestinal discomfort. So the surgery was done after 36 hours of my last bupe dose. The anethesiologist decided to do an axial block (localized anastetic) along with general anathesia using versed, propofol with NO FENTANYL (for fear of relapse, which was an overreaction IMO). Pain wise, I was fine until the block started to wear off, sometime around 2 a.m. the next night.

At 4 a.m., I woke up in SEVERE PAIN. The pain was so bad that I was actually biting my pillow. I got up and took 2 Percocet 10's, hoping that would get me thru a couple of hours so I could let my parents sleep. Unfortunately, the Suboxone was still partially blocking the oxycodone. At 4:30 a.m., I woke my mom up and told her that we needed to go straight to the Emergency Room so I could get some relief. It was quite possibly, the worst pain I've ever had. It felt as if someone was holding a lit lighter up to my hand. When we arrived to the ER, I told the attending physician that I was on Suboxone but had been on a full mu-agonist for the past 48 hours. He quickly gave me a IM shot of 2mg Dilaudid, which did NOTHING. Bupe was still blocking. The nurse, who's shift was almost over, gave me another 2mg shot of Dilaudid, which helped a very little bit (I felt euphoric, but was still in intense pain). The ER Doc gave me a script of #28 2mg Dilaudid tablets for post-op pain.

By 6 a.m., a new nurse came on board and she was alerted to my past drug addiction and Suboxone treatment. Still in pain, I have never been treated that rudely in my life. I was asking for more pain meds because I was still in extreme pain and she thought I was drug seeking. I WAS NOT DRUG SEEKING. My mother was actually in tears because she's never seen me in this condition. The pain was so bad that I could hardly catch my breath. The nurse said that I had my limit of Dilaudid and she was not going to give me anything else until the head doctor had been called (he's a very busy man). I had to wait 2 more hours in pain before I could see the specialist. I had to beg the nurse to give me ANYTHING to stop the pain. I didn't care if it was an opiate or not. I wanted relief, that's all. Finally she gave me some toradol, which again helped more than the Dilaudid shots. Once they unwrapped my hand, the pain finally began to subside a little more. Basicallly, the doctor had wrapped my hand too tight and the stitches were being pulled and squeezed. Again, this "nurse" came into the room and told my mother to throw away ANY pain medications given by any doctors because if I took them with the Dilaudid, I would end up killing myself. I know how to take pain meds and that would never happen. She was the nurse from hell.

I'm sorry this is so long, but I felt that I should share my story of struggle, pain and discrimination. I would advise anyone who is getting ready for surgery while on Suboxone to discontinue the medication and get on a full mu agonist opiate for complete pain relief. If you don't, you could be left out to dry with no options for pain relief. After this event, I went back on the suboxone, with no trouble at all. No relapse, no precipitated withdrawal. Be your own advocate. Know your medicines. Fight for your rights. I love the forum. Thanks, Dr. Junig
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:12 pm 
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I'm so sorry you had to go through the same "hell" I went through. Excuse my language, but this bitch from hell"long story short"I had to deal with at fucking central dumpage hospital, I would Kill her if I could I"m so pissed. Well I got my revenge on everyone in 2006 by going on methadone and saying "fuck suboxone". Sorry if this offends anyone, but this "bitch from hell" as I was shakeing on my bed after the surgery said shit like "you dont need to know what you are getting, you are getting something", then "ok now let me destroy these drugs" which were not FUCKING even touching my pain. To make matters worse she had "cocaine sniffles syndrome", this fat ugly bitch would not quit sniffling, I wanted to take a baseball bat and bash her nose in, until she felt the fucking pain I was in. What really pissed me off, is my sub doctor DID NOT even take me off the subs at all, because this surgery was an emergency. Well if they knew something possibly could come up. I wound up in the ER on my friggin birthday of all things too and this POS hospital will NEVER get my business again. OH I detoxed from methadone a month ago at the detox,mental side of that hospital ONLY because it is a seperate building from the main POS. You know why??? because the main POS is so against addiction etc and descriminates against addicts so bad that there is a seperate building for the so called "junkies and hopeless souls". IF I ever run into the "fat bitch" when my Mom has to go to the POS main hospital, I am going to threaten her and yell every word in the book, especially the C**T word and I'm going to tell that fat bitch that nobody will ever operate on me at that POS hospital ever again. I will be travelling 3 or so hours to a compassionate hospital where I wont be treated that way. Doctor shopping, bullshit, everyone in this lousy country has the right to deny going to a place where they are treated like and discriminated like a pos junkie.
Everyone can see this is NOT my day today, I'm glad I came upon the OP's post, because I could ramble on for a long time, how raged I am about this POS hospital. THey are building one room beds, where are they getting all this money? From ignorant fools who have been "brainwashed" into thinking this hospital is "always thinking, always careing" FUCK YOU CDH YOU ARE A LIEING CROCK OF SHIT" and I hope someone BOMBS your hospital, FUCK YOU CDH.


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So overall would you say your experience was bad, sort of bad or really bad..........Seriously you have to let this go...I have seen you post about this twice now and your rage is beyond any rage I have ever seen. It is clear you have a resentment against the nurse, the hospital, the doctor's but you have to let this go or it's going to eat you up.....this will lead to relapse for sure....I know because I have gone out on resentments This forum is to share concerns and experiences but we also have to act somewhat respectful. If you show up at that hospital or anywhere with that kind of rage you are going to be treated terribly. I am glad you made the descesion(sp) to start going to another hospital to get the care you deserve. I have made a choice to carry a card in my wallet that says I am on subutex. Like both of us we are junkies and maybe we deserve some of the treatment we get but I can assure you I would ask to speak with whoever I had to in order to be treated properly. If a nurse or a doctor was treating me unprofessionally I would do whatever the law allows to be treated as required by law.......we are after all human..but you have to let this go....it is ok to share this terrible experience but please do it in a way that is not offensive to those of us that want to show others here that we can live a "normal" life on sub and your rant clearly would send some running away.I hope you find the peace you need in your life. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat and I will share with you how I have dealt with my anger in the past....Good Luck.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:49 pm 
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Sorry everyone for my rage today, monday's I hate because something always goes wrong on that day. I dont mean to scare anyone away from Suboxone or Methadone, its just my rage issue due to so many bad things that happened in my life. I am treated worse than normal people due to the fact I have slight autisim,schizotypal personality disorder,manic depression and no colon due to chronic ulcerative colitis. Lucky I have the "j pouch" google it, its a long story. I would have never been able to live with an awful bag the rest of my life.

As far as my treatment by that "nurse" too bad I didn't and strange I didn't get a survey like usual, because on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being very poor, I would say 2, because I felt not only did the surgeon go in an unprofessional manner, but the "nurse" got away with whatever the heck she wanted to. I am very observant and she had a fairly big syringe hooked to my IV, and I could barely read my name on it and it just said "saline flush". She was just "placebo" dosing me into thinking I was getting pain meds, when I was getting nothing.

So sorry again for my rage, I just went off like crazy today until my Mom had to give me my 20mg valium and 2mg xanax after I went off outside like crazy, facing the neighbors next door that I despise anyway. I had already been helping my Mom with the work around the "hive" lol house and I was laughing so hard about "what would you do Mom if the ups truck came?" or I found Heroin? she said, you would be kicked out and live under a bridge or get the heck out and move to Europe so you can get all messed up. That's shortly before something happened that caused me to snap and swear at top of my lungs outside, hopeing the hated neighbors next door wouldhear me. I think they saw me on Facebook already, as well as I did see them. I still am kind of new to facebook, but can someone tell that you looked them up and who looked you up?

I just saw my psychiatrist a week or so ago for my moods and he then put me on the tegretol, I asked him about hitting my hated neighbors up on facebook and he said. It would be better to nicely try to discuss the "cold war" that is going on between me(us). But I dont know what to say, I have this special sense like a psychic and I get this "feeling" that I may have something in common with someone next door and that for some reason is pushing us away from each other.
But on the topic of what's going on here, I feel if I had a very significant other, that my rage and relapse potential may go way down. I know my doc said 2 months at least for the methadone to leave my pores and body totally possibly, but its been a few days past a month. It was 24 hours past my last methadone dose at 9:30am on feb 11 when I went into detox. I dont know if suddenly one day my rage etc will just stop or if it will slowly come to an end. I also see my sub doctor soon, so I dont know what's going to happen then, but will keep everyone updated on what's happening.

I keep getting this "feeling" my special senses are telling me, dont want to say either way, what I'm getting because I dont want to bring stuff like this in here, until something actually happens. I also hope I dont scare anyone away by letting people know that I have a "psychic" special type of sense and wont go into detail about it. Just wish me luck everyone, I know my rage etc is going to eat me up inside, it already is, I need someone, even a close friend to talk to, but I go to NA meetings and everyone "just wants to get the heck going once meeting is over with". My sub doctor wants me 2 go 2 at least 2 meetings this week before I see him. I already went to one, but darn, for some reason a guy I got to talking to, didn't want to give out his number, which I figure would be needed,or at least someones signature fromthe meeting. Otherwise, how will my subox doctor know I went?


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Just stick close here and share how your feeling........I hope you have a better day tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Well just thought I'd keep everyone updated, I still feel just blah, no ambition or hope whatsoever on the 12mg suboxone I'm on now. I've been to one NA meeting with one more to go, and I see my doctor in 2 days, but how is he going to know I really went to the meetings? I bet he will want a phone number etc from someone. Well the NA meeting I went to the other day, everyone just wanted to hurry outta there and one guy I talked to, didn't want to give me his number, so off to another meeting I go to tomorrow(wed). I'll get a number and name then, my special senses keep telling me, I'm slowly being sucked back to mmt, which doesn't bother me at all, to respect others opinion as to which is better for them or not. I wont go into detail. Only thing I worry about is money and getting the correct dose to stabilize me. I know switching back would be no problem. I just worry about how I will be treated there since me and the counselor I didn't like there have this game we play, also since I scared the heck outta the doctor at the mmt clinic, I get this feeling he will be a little strict if I go back there, but some talking would work things out.

Right now my senses are telling me that, in the next few days will be"the moment of truth"
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Well I am wishing you luck and you actually sound much calmer the last few posts. I am sure you are still having a rough time from what you are saying but you sound a little better so I hope you are feeling a little better. Even if only a "little". It is easier to respond to your posts because before with all the rage I wasn't even sure what to say. You have a lot going on and I am pulling for you to get through all of this ok.

In terms of how your doc will know if you went to the meetings......mine just wants a piece of paper with my name, the date of the meeting, and some initials. No phone numbers are required. I agree a lot of people just want the hell out of there after the meetings, or at least it feels that way when you are desperate and need some help. I am glad you feel comfortable coming here and discussing what is going on. Let us know how things go and just try to put one foot in front of the other until things work themselves out. You are doing what you have been asked to do and that is good. Take care!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:26 am 
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Day before "moment of truth" and I'm ready to get high, this morning at 10am while I'm sucking on my sub as usual, my piece of crap digital camera isn't working because as most people here know, the cable between camera and computer wears out. Well I didn't know as my luck wouldhave it, that it would wear out or need cleaning or something. Every little thing is big to me because I've just had it with being alive period. The tegretol my psych doc prescribed me has turned me into a zombie just like I was before I went into detox. Dont know if I am going to just quit it or call him, I feel dead tired most of the time, I've had this headache that wont go away until morning when my dose of it is due. So I dont know what's going on. Also someone I know who was in detox to get off benzo's, told me to try to get off the benzo's and the problem will probably go away. Not trying to say anything is better because I dont know, but he said "if you were not on valium 3x daily when you first started mmt, you probably wouldn't be such a zombie all day and still be on it". But he then said, "I know nothing about opiates though because I'm in here to get off benzo's", then he tells me he has a bowl packed and ready to go when he gets home. He claims he can "get anything" weed wise and when I described my weed experiences, he told me that I was hanging out with "losers who can only afford the cheapest stomped on crap out there". He then said, the colors etc you described to me and just the fact that you tried growing some seeds and the guy you hung out with. Man he said, didn't you know you were getting ripped off right then and there when you took the jar to him that you started growing it in, then as we were driving around town, he said "oh this crap is oregano and he smashed the jar on the street". I said to him "HA HA I caught ya didn't I?" he was so stoned on something that night that he said "what are you talking about". That was when my room mate said, "when you and I get outta here, I will show you what real weed is", I said well I hate the scary psychadelic effects I've had from it, only one or two times did it make me laugh like crazy. He said, well this stuff I get wont make you have any problems. I was like "whatever to myself" and tried to sleep that night and couldn't, so we were messing around with his phone and the nurse came in at 1:30am and said "you two can't sleep playing music", so my roomie said ok and shut off music and I then went out to the nurse and said, I'm sorry I just can't sleep, that's why I came out, my room mate isn't bothering me, I just notice he keeps quietly texting back and forth, I can't sleep because no matter which way I lay down, my stomach is cramping. She looked up what she could give me and ah ha, Bentyl, the name came right up in my mind. I knew that stuff would calm me etc since I had it during my colon surgery etc.

Well she gave me that and I went back in my room and said to my room mate"dont be surprised if I sleep now", well I sure did, in fact he had to yell to wake me up I was snoring so loud ha ha. I think the next morning is when I was put on suboxone.


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Well surprisingly I feel alot better, sure did yesterday since my doctor was busy and forgot to mention anything about meetings, I actually dont like going to Na meetings for reasons above, but alot of others may so its up to everyone. But woo hoo, at least now I'm taking 2 8mg subs daily, total of 16mg and I take one in the morning and the other before supper. I was up late last night and felt pretty great after taking my 8mg and holding saliva and tried spitting it out and surprisingly the headaches I've been getting everyday are gone. So maybe its best I spit it out, because once"long story" In my 1st rehab, this dumb nurse lol or the doctor who had me on subutex, put me on naltrexone 6 hours only, after my last dose of subutex. I dont know what dose of subutex it was, maybe someone can tell me, it was a kind of oval shaped white pill but very much like hmm real curved at the edges, more looking like the flap of an envelope. I just remember not long after I ate supper, this nurse who doses everyone, had me come over and dose I forgot what amount, but it was just a small amount of naltrexone, that sent me into the worst wd's I ever was in and the doc had no compassion at all, so I did my tricks to get outta that dump and spent 2 weeks in wd's including paws. In 2 weeks I was in love again with 120 norco 10/500 and was proud I relapsed. I was lucky too because my Mom was visiting another country and my bro who was watching me had no choice but to let be be alone for a few days because I had court for some huge trouble I almost got into.

But, I'm feeling better now that I walked out yesterday with a better dose, darn I wish I would have thought to just crush the pill up and then hold saliva, I've been just dissolving the suboxone which takes a few mins or more if I can't salivate good, I find out the worst time to do a sub is after you brushed your teeth. Never take your dose until at least 15 mins past when you just brushed your teeth. I learned that kind of the lousy way once, so I always wait 15 mins at least after brushing my teeth and then rinse my mouth out again or chew some candy and swallow some water and then dose my sub. tonite I will try just putting the pill in my mouth enough to get it wet and just crush it up and then hold saliva for 10 mins and spit it out.
Speaking of spitting it out, does anyone get any better benefit if they are able to tolerate holding the saliva for 20 mins? I used to take mine and hold the saliva for 20 mins, thinking since when I used to take norco 10/500 and after 20 mins I'd get that buzz, I tried that with subs too. I didn't notice a difference though, but that was when I'd swallow all the juices.


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The whole time I was on sub for 2 1/2 years I took it wrong. Then I got on here and now I am holding it as long as possible which is generally about 20 minutes or so. Usually 15. I find it holds longer when I do it that way and more powerful. When i get lazy and smoke a cig with it, it barely works and not that long. How did I go 2.5 years like that? Hmmm.

Yes...hold it in long. It works.


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Amazing Jackcrack,
How could you go that long? I would have been like UMM this ain't working and would have went on mmt.Glad you told me that though. I sure dosed wrong this morning, worst case, my whole day ruined. I got nothing done, I was so depressed and felt just like I did back in the "glory days" of 2004 when I'd have to sit around until sometimes 130pm for that truck to come and deliver "mr watson". I'd kiss the bottle and instantly take my 4or 5 10/500 norco's all at once and within 20 mins I'd start to feel real good!!!!!!. Well today all day was a day like"waiting", I dosed wrong first off because I didn't wait long enough after brushing my darn teeth, I would have been better off dosing the way I was before brushing. My little "buddy" doesn't care if it has to endure my nighttime breath lol. Another mistake, I put it under my tongue and instead of crushing up the pill and thus making me salivate better, I just swished my tongue on it,thus taking forever for it to dissolve. Then I waited 10 mins after it dissolved and spit it out after 10 mins. Well tonite I couldn't wait to dose my last 8mg of the day, this time I got that sucker under my tongue and just got it wet enough to crush under my molars and then salivated good. I then held the saliva for 10 mins and even shook my head a little to get the saliva all over inside my mouth. After 10 mins, this time I swallowed it all. I think since I have no colon, the whole thing is a toss up for me. Sometimes I'm better off swallowing, sometimes its better to spit it out. I can always tell though as I'm waiting for 10mins to end, wheather to spit or swallow. Now hopefully tomorrow when I get up, and I do it right, I can get stuff done around here and lose some weight too.


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Well I hope it worked out for you. I went that long that way because it was such a high dose I think. The first time I took it without the cigarette, I didn't have enough saliva and was frustrated and it took too long. I tried a smoke with it. It disolved in seconds and I thought that was the key. I think you still get a decent dose that way....just not like doing it correctly.


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I had a baby while on suboxone. I did not have any pain (child birth is so different than surgery- it is something your body is supose to go through!)
But I could not believe how I was treated when they knew I was on suboxone. I did not tell them I was on it b/c of paion not for a past history of drug abuse. Does it matter? They should treat everyone with respect regardless of their past. Even the OB treated me like crap and looked down on me! I never asked for any medication b/c I was okay and still they looked down up on me b/c of the sub.


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Im sorry you had to deal with that, crap like this, is one of the main things that make me despise america.
I am having another "one of my turns today" just like pink floyd's song "one of my turns", listening to that song fits my mood very well today. I was surprised I had a good day yesterday and was up till 1am, but today is a totally different day. I think alot of it has to do with my stupid mistake of taking one 200mg tegretol to test if that was what has been making my subs work so lousy lately. Well today I'm paying the price and will not take that crap again. Hopefully after this late afternoon when I take my last sub of the day I will feel better.

Only other thing is I had a headache last night before I took the tegretol crap, so I thought maybe its cuz I swallowed saliva both times yesterday when I took my two 8mg subs. This morning however, I spit out the saliva instead, the headaches went away, yet I'm so damn depressed, full of rage and totally ambitionless.

THank God I got done what I did yesterday, because I had all icould do to finish up packing up the last of the packages I had sold on pos ebay a week ago and had to ship them. I am so fed up with pos ebay and their anticonstitutional feedback policy, that I have decided NOT to sell on there unless I make a huge profit like $100 or more per item. That is another rage in my brain, some asshole left me a nasty first negative feedback long before I went back on subs. I got so pissed that I sent him the most vulgar bomb threatening terror "if you want to settle this peacefully type of email", yet crapbay sent me a warning and yet did NOTHING to retract the obviously fraudulently feedback he left for me.

SOO what did I do? after all was said and done, I turned ebay against itself, hint hint, anyone else here dealing with this moronically managed company, if you sell on ebay and get a negative, her'es what you do, since you have no choice but to give buyer a positive, give a positive, BUT right in the description, in all caps say <NEGATIVE, then say whatever nasty thing you want against the buyer and it will show up and backfire against ebay's in favor of buyers only bs. You can also under your neg feedback which I did, I immediately updated his stupid negative and said "impatient idiot left neg fb for no reason 8 hours after emailing me after I was in bed!.

SOO now I hate ebay soo bad that I'm ready to put up all my crap in the garage and say something to the effect as"fedup with ebay I'm leaving all must go" then in the description I'm going to basically in a way say something to the effect of"someone just come locally and take this CRAP off my hands asap, start bidding at $100 and say take one or a few or all of it, that way if someone does take it all, at least I got $100 cash.

I'm ready to go back to flipping used clunkers again, that's how bad and a hassle crappy ebay is. If anyone here is involved in the used car business, yea it can be a hassle too, but in my opinion its not as bad a ebay lol. If anyone is in cars lemme know, I'd like to hear from you and how things are going on your end. I figure we aren't competition since we most likely live far from each other.

But back on topic, I dont think the lousy medical world will start treating us junkies any better until this dumb country finally legalized opium or opiates of any kind for depression or "maint", seems like we're getting somewhere getting our foot in the door by states legalizing weed, but as we all know, most us junkies HATE weed, me included. I also hate the stigma against us by "potheads", I had to deal with one already and wont ever again, this person was some loser I mean loser, I wish I NEVER met in 1995 till 2 years ago when the dirty rotton scum showed how rotten he was, he turned out to be a pigeon stool for the oinkers in my town. I proved that by riding his bike down the street and slowed way up and just stared quickly at me, then I saw a police pickup truck following him and I had all I could do to keep myself from yelling, HOMO PIGEON stool for the police. THen say his name and say what him and me did sexually just so he would give me vicodin. But I thought, bad idea.

Well wish me luck that this loser is outta my life forever, because all he does is suck down 40oz beers one every 5mins or less, he's such a drunk and he smokes weed sometimes. He was the worst person I ever met, he's the one who also sold me 90 vicodin 5/500's back in the very beginning of may of 2004. I later foundout he got em out of various trash bags in the dumpsters all around the huge college compus I live close to. I'm glad I found his trick so I could know how to find heaven in a dumpster. Sadly due to the idiots out there exposing like crazy the "vicodin and oxycontin craze" goingon these days. Now its almost impossible to find stuff in dumpsters anymore,just empty bottles if that,with thelabel rippedoff.

Well I gotta get painfully struggling just to get through this crappy day, wish me luck that I feel better tonite.


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Please remove my "nasty" posts if possible, I'm manic depressed and was doing VERY rotten at the time and said very dumb stuff I would not say out to the whole world normally, like I would never say now, since I am feeling MUCH better then at that time. If "words are written in stone", well then all I can do is bang my head against the wall lol for being "very dumb again and again in my sorry life lol". But if the "worst of my posts can be removed please do so". I tried deleting em, but system said I could not do anything as far as deleting because 120 hours had long passed.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:19 pm 
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is it better to switch from suboxone to subutex before surgery, I am hearing so many stories about residual suboxone in someone's system.


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Tantra - I see you're new to the forum, so WELCOME!

As far as I know there wouldn't be any difference, as the main ingredient in both is buprenorphine.

Glad to have you here and keep posting.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:06 am 
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wow some one i know after 2 yrs tapered to .5 mg subs and had to have er surgery then after stomach surgery was still in pain for a whole week didnt take it dr said the sub was to low , just gave the vikes 500/5 1-2 mg that barely barely barely barely i think wrked for 10min when it was taken every 4-6hrs this went on for a whole week in pain no sleep & suffering wd, hard to heal like this..im stopping the vikes forget it..they dont wrk, im tired of all but what can help jus a little?? herbs?? well thats the story live


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