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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:03 pm 
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I have been on Sub for over 4 years, I was a heroin addict 4 yrs prior to that. I struggle with the idea of tapering off all the time. I am on 24 mg of Sub q.d. I remember my life on heroin, Sub and my determination have taken that life away. The thought of ever feeling dope sick again scares the living shit out of me, besides the thought of not having the Sub there if I get the "urge". I really don't know if it is logical to think I can stay on Sub forever is it? There are times I say its time to get off this shit and then 10 minutes later I talk myself out of it. I have a lot of health problems and I'm only 27 so that circumstance also weighs to the con side of stopping, bc I figure what for my health is shit so whats being on one more drug besides the others going to matter. Like I said if you can't tell I am TORN. Any input on this topic would be greatly appreciated.


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Hi Taran,

You're certainly not the only one to wrestle with this issue. One thing I'd like to say is you don't have to decide right now what you'll do for the rest of your life. Deciding to not to go off sub now isn't the same as deciding to stay on it forever. Same with staying on it for a few more years. And you can reassess every year or how ever often you need to.

I've been on sub for coming up on 3 years. I take it for both addiction and pain so it's possible I'll be on it for a long while. I'm fine with that for now and for the foreseeable future. When and if some things change, I'll reassess then.

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I wouldnt like to be on the sub train forever. The longer you stay on it the harder it will be to quit, take this from experience from me. I also thought one time stay on sub forever as it made me feel good but that was just a honeymoon period. The longer I stayed on it the more I felt crummy. I vouch for folks when they are admant they dont or cant stay on the sub train forever. It sucks a lot out of you because its still a potent medicine. I was on suboxone for 2 1/2 years and I really badly wanted to get off so I tapered all the way to 0.25, the depression part was the worst for me and trust me I never had depression issues prior. So then I went back on suboxone and will taper again. I dont want to stay on this for long but definetely not forever. There will come a time when all you think about is your next dose of suboxone. You lose interest in a social life and even movies, so thats why am admant its best to get off soon as possible. I was also a heroin user too but I dont need suboxone to supress my cravings. I havent touched heroin many years and I dont belive so I will again. Even when I tapered I still did not feel the urge to do any drugs let alone my original doc (heroin). I have known many ex heroin users who just stopped and have been clean for several years. Sometimes an important issue like having a baby throws all the cravings out of the window, throws the addiction side out of the window, sometimes realising whats important such as your parents, your self respect and future can throw those cravings right out of the window. We can change, its possible. Its all about what we choose to do and what we put first. I have known many people to put family first and have quit their habbit of heroin or other drugs. I spoke to someone through a meeting who just became more and more embarassed watching his old highschool friends progressing in life, settling down, having a decent career and yet he was out there scoring, so one day he said to himself right thats it, am not going to look a weak man and dabble in heroin for the rest of my life so he put quit there and then and its been 3 years he has been clean. So my preception is we can change and its possible to quit anything we are on. I do not ever buy the concept of once an addict always an addict hell no. People have made it and people have fixed themselves up without even struggling when they have to take a pain killer to supress their pain (medicinal reasons). Now when it comes to suboxone its totally different, it has a long half life and makes recovery that much intense and depressinlgly long. Personally I just need to get out this suboxone life and lead my life sober.


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