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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:08 pm 
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I had a breast augmentation yesterday. I've been wanting to do it for years, but when I was on Sub, I just didn't want to face the issue of controlling pain. At this point, I'm 7 months out from Sub and decided to go for it. I was still a little afraid that it would be super hard to control my pain even this far out.

Anyway, yesterday I had them done in the morning. It's never fun waking up, but I've only needed 3 painkillers total so far. I'm on a lot of nausea meds, which are making me loopy, but the painkillers are working just fine. I can take 1-2 every 4-6 hours. Only needed 3 so far!! Soooo relieved, and by Monday, I'm pretty sure I'll be off them entirely.

Moral of the story is that your brain does let go of the Sub and things do go back to normal. I was on Sub nearly 6 years.

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Hey LT,

Glad your surgery went really good for you and I hope you have a speedy recovery.

Have a good day :P
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:46 pm 
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Thanks for letting us know that! It's a relief to know that your brain can go back to normal that soon after being on sub for so long! Best wishes for recovery!!


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Thank you, courtney b and Taurus, for your best wishes. It's certainly lovely to see that my brain has adjusted and I can get pain relief. I was really worried about that! And I was on Sub a very long time and at very high doses for much of it. Now I can just heal for a few more days and go shopping. :D

Thank you guys once again.

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Congrats laddetripper

Here is a question i hope u might b able to bring sum light too. Approximately how long did it take for you to really feel good/normal after stopping subs.

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Congrats laddertipper. I hope you're happy and comfortable with the results. And it's good to know your pain is being managed well.

You may find that when you go off your painkillers that you'll be more sensitive to the rebound effects from opioids. In the times where I was clean for periods around one year, I noticed that when I was re-introduced to opioids (however definitely over painkilling doses), even if I used just once or twice, I'd feel like I'd regressed back to how it was at one month or two months clean.

I'm not trying to bring you down at all, if anything I'm just hoping you will be vigilant when the time comes to reduce off, as it is a time that ex-addicts are more vulnerable to relapse. You may find that your PAWS symptoms may surface again for some time. After we've been dependent on opioids, our brains are more easily switched back to the way they were before. This can happen whether it's 1 month or 10 years after quitting. This is the main reason why people say we are never cured of addiction, as people can't easily control their use as they could before they became dependent.

Just a heads up, though I'm sure you were probably aware, given you'd experienced this last time you were on painkillers post-Sub.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:40 am 
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Bboy, the six month mark was when I can say I felt way better. It got better before then, but at six months, I felt very good.

Tear, I'm expecting to get a bit of a kickback from taking these painkillers. That did happen after my hysterectomy. I just didn't want to wait any longer, because I wanted to be augmented for the summer. :D :D Anyway, I gotta try to get by on Tylenol alone tomorrow, because I'll be driving again. That will make it only three days on painkillers....hopefully won't bite too hard.

It seems like my tolerance for opiates is fairly normal at this point. After my October surgery, I needed so many IV meds. This time around, one painkiller is working just fine. I feel super loopy, lol. Holy moly. I think the nausea stuff is kicking my butt. I have one of those patches on.

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That is so awsome Laddertipper! The excitment of feeling like a sexy woman again after kids ruin the bod is enough to forget about the pain... Lol I bet you look fanTASTic. Trust me they look amazing after 3-6 months once they settle.. Keep your strap on. (ha ha. Thats what they told me.)...How are you feeling now?


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Keep your ... wtf? :lol:


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So....when do we get to see the new rack, huh? :wink:

Seriously, congrats and good luck with everything.

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Ms. ladytripper. If you wouldn't mind, I am curious to know how long your initial withdrawal symptoms lasted. And, compared to the horror stories that we have read, what reductions you had in the initial w/d. I am hoping to write a blog giving some of the new information that we would never know without warriors like you in the battle.

Please and thank you.


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Okay, so I ended up being on painkillers longer than I wanted to, but I'm off and fine now. I kinda tapered off them, mainly because I had to be careful with the driving thing. Mornings and middle of the night were the 'ouch' times. My last one was Tuesday morning. This was totally a mental struggle because I still hurt and I have a lot of meds left. I gave them to my hubby for his Doomsday thing.

I did not have any trouble coming off. Wouldn't it have hit me by now? Maybe I stopped slowly enough or just didn't take enough of them.

Anyway, so far so good. I think I'm gonna like the result. I'm keeping the strap on, as Sweet suggested, lol.

Surgery 7 months post-Sub = Not bad at all!!! Only thing I'd say is that when I woke up at the surgery center and they were giving me the IV meds, I still hurt. The nurses gave me the max amount they could and I was totally lucid, which was impressive to them. Is this from the Sub? I really don't know. The nausea meds were the only things that knocked me out.

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COOL! LT. You are doing FANtasTIC.. So now you are gonna jsut be moving right along and looking great. It is a great thing to reward yourself for getting off sub. I am going on a cruise to Mexico for 3 days w/ my dental hyigenest...(a girl)And I got botox and Jeuvaderm. I feel 15 again...ha ha. How are you feeling? Having fun shopping? Anyone notice??? BTW how many CC did you get? I wanted natural so he gave me D's... :shock: ...
Tearj3rker, the strap, I know totally barbaric...


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sweet16 wrote:
COOL! LT. You are doing FANtasTIC.. So now you are gonna jsut be moving right along and looking great. It is a great thing to reward yourself for getting off sub. I am going on a cruise to Mexico for 3 days w/ my dental hyigenest...(a girl)And I got botox and Jeuvaderm. I feel 15 again...ha ha. How are you feeling? Having fun shopping? Anyone notice??? BTW how many CC did you get? I wanted natural so he gave me D's... :shock: ...
Tearj3rker, the strap, I know totally barbaric...


I feel good. It doesn't hurt except for on the right side, for some reason. I'm massaging and massaging. Apparently you get one shot to avoid capsular contraction. I'm so thrilled that I did this! And now that it's over, I'm relieved, cause I was scared, lol. whatever they gave me for my nerves (versed?) knocked me on my butt. I remember nothing after the 'thing to relax me that might make my head feel like a balloooooooonnnnn......'

So, he only upped me one size, from small C to full D. Maybe it's 1.5 sizes. I probably ended up with a good doc, cause he reigned me in. I did not want natural....wanted porn star. He gave me the 450 cc ones. He said he tried the bigger ones, but it looked 'bubbly' and fake. Actually, I wouldn't mind the fake thing (I'm a CA girl, lol) but the stretch marks....no thanks! They are strapped down, so only my friends know. Everyone wants to squeeze, LMAO!

Have fun of your cruise, Sweet! It's probably exactly what you need. Warmth!! Lots of warmth!! Can I come? Lol. It is snowing here! I'm happy to hear that you like the botox and Jeuvaderm, cause that is next on my list. I just wanna keep it up, once I start it, so people aren't like 'oh, are you sick?' 'No, just overdue on my Botox and fillers!' LOL!

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Yeah ladder ... now we've been dependent on high dose opioids (whatever you were using AND Suboxone), be prepared for your tolerance to opioids to be higher than 'normal people' likely for the rest of your life.

8mg of Suboxone is 40 times the 'normal person's' painkilling dose (!!!) . Weren't you on 32 mg? That's like 120 x a normal painkilling dose! Whether we like it or not, our baseline tolerance will always be higher than that of other people even years after using. It's the lasting legacy of opioid dependence.

BTW I just wanna say this is great, and we should have more threads like this regularly.


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I mean...i come back to check the board after several months and there's all this boob talk? I'm a 32 year old guy so...much appreciated.

LT glad to hear your off! Good for you. I'm coming up quick on 2 years off. No looking back. Life is good.

You and sweet16 should post pics of the racks...just for medical purposes of course to see who has the better doctor.


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