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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:21 am 
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Hello im wondering what the difference between subutex and suboxone is besides the obvious Nalaxine.
I'm asking because me and my friend are both on the suboxone and he has another friend who is on subutex but apparently she doesn't take her subutex she only likes to take suboxone, I dn't understand that.?
Also I've also heard a lot of ppl say that subutex is" fire" but I took subutex when first started my suboxone treatment and I see no difference between the two.....does anyone know wats up??


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:48 am 
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Im pretty sure the only difference is that subutex have the absence of nalaxone. Nothing else. Subutex is just straight buprenorphine. Im not positive.... But im almost positive


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Be positive, Boxer; you're 100% correct.

Suboxone contains Naloxone in addition to Buprenorphine Hcl as a 'safety feature.' There are significant writings here at Dr. J's SuboxoneTalkZone.com blog regarding the real-deal differences.. It is commonly reported that Naloxone in Suboxone isn't a deterrent to IV use at all and is quite inert or at least ineffective. There is still a misguided thinking in medicine as perpetuated by RB (manufacturers of Suboxone/Subutex) that Suboxone is somehow safer than Subutex; that's probably where the 'fire' comment comes from? Does that mean 'fire' as in injecting or 'fire' as in really good? I'm not down with that lingo. :)

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TwinCitiesHardcore wrote:
that's probably where the 'fire' comment comes from? Does that mean 'fire' as in injecting or 'fire' as in really good? I'm not down with that lingo. :)


Me neither TwinCities!!!!!! I have no idea what that means...please fill us in! :lol:

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Can I be on a very low dose of suboxone and still beable to take fentenyal ? I do know suboxone does block opiates. But if taken in such a 1/8 of the strip, I'm thinking I can keep that w/d & craving at bay, and still controll my cronic pain .. Or am I fooling myself in still wanting that euphoric ? Thinking I can controll it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:48 am 
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cool feet,

I would not suggest you try using the suboxone at all if you are still taking fentanyl. It isn't going to work out the way you are hoping. Suboxone is an all or nothing kind of drug. If you aren't ready for complete sobriety you need to stay away from it.

I'm assuming you aren't prescribed both of these by a doctor...

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