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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:13 pm 
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I was on subs for more then5 years the first years were great I stopped using Loricets I was able to get my life back. But the last 2 years the subs started to effect my personality. I did not want to hang out with friends or do anything. It was like the subs dulled all my sences. Now that I am 32 days off I know I still have a long way to go till I feel 100% but I am starting to enjoy things like music being outside etc. Has anyone had this problem


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:29 pm 
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Same thing happened to me. The thing that scared me the most was that I used to date all kinds of girls and have a good time. After about a year of taking subs I completely stopped dating and became a recluse. I haven't been on a date in almost 2 years now. Sex drive went down to almost 0. I stopped hanging out with all my friends. Which was probably a good thing because they all did drugs. And I stopped hanging out with my family.

Now that I'm at 30 days clean I can hang out with my family again. Sex drive is back and then some. And I feel happy most of the time. Even though I still have PAWS. I started playing my guitar again too. That's something else that I completely stopped.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:33 am 
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thanks for the feedback its so weird what this stuff does to you. I am so glad that I am off it now even know I still don't feel 100%


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Yes I can totally relate! I noticed I'd lose my personality when I didn't use in active addiction too although I could quickly re-gain it by using again. I think it has something to do with the fact that opiates alter dopamine and seratonin levels in the brain. Its probably natural this happens to some extent, but I've noticed it's worse on suboxone. Maybe because of the long half-life?

It's hard to describe to non drug users but it's like I have no motivation to do anything. It's awful. Although I am so incredibly relieved I'm not using drugs anymore living like a junkie, but this is just a bad side effect.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:13 pm 
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I can relate to all your posts. I became a total introvert and isolated myself in my room with my suboxone. Music sucked, I could care less about my interests and hobbies, I had no motivation except when I was 'high' on subs(I snorted them and would get buzzed), and I didn't see any beauty in the world. In other words, I was apathetic and depressed.

I had a total change in personality after getting off. I became aware of the beauty in everyday things we take for granted like the nights sky. I felt that inspiration and excitement from music again. My passions came alive and I began doing all the things I stopped doing before opiates and subs. I am definitely a happier, more motivated person now that I have been off for some months. I know some might call it the "pink cloud" but this is not that. I have experienced that before and it is different. This is consistent peace of mind and gratitude for life that comes with a brain that is back to physiological normalcy and a 12 step program that gives me hope and inspiration everyday.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:27 am 
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i just wanted to chime in on this topic. I went thru pretty much the same experience-the first year maybe on subs( 6 to 8 mg) was good,but then i became less and less motivated to do anything i didnt HAVE to do,so my world became alot smaller. I stopped listening to music,painting which is one of my passions,and socializing became a huge chore. I basically went to work,and mostly watched TV with my boyfriend. I started tapering in oct or november of last year,and i am now taking less than 0.5mg. the tapering was alot easier than i thought,and i have the energy to do alot more now. music sounds good again,and i want to get on with enjoying life again - i know it will be even better once i am completely off. The main side effect has been decreased sleep,but its really not so bad. i have some self hypnosis cds that i keep by my bed in case i wake up in the middle of the night.they usually work to put me back to sleep. i do take klonopin,.5mg at night for sleep,but this ive been doing for more than 10 years. now i want off of the klonopin too! so im planning to taper off that as well,but i know that i need to go slowly. having my emotions creeping back into my life has been mostly good,but i have gotten depressed somewhat,mostly when i am alone.(im single now,but that happened before the taper started) i take l tyrosine,l-glutamine,and plenty of vitamins, water,eat pretty well,and get exercise either hot yoga or the gym,about 5 times a week. i think that is a huge factor in helping to keep my endorphins up and anxiety levels down. i am going to do .4mg for a week, then try .25mg,until im down to zero. i wait about 7 to 10 days before i lower my dosage usually. i do have some sneezing spells which is nothing. i was a lurker on this site until just recently- i just want to say that getting off subs IS VERY DO ABLE you just have to be patient and persistent.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:07 am 
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Thanks for the post, I'm new to subs (27 days) and have been loving life, I was wondering if it would do something like this. I hope this won't be true in my case, but I will be watching for this side effect now....thanks again..Hope things continue to be better for you all...


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:07 am 
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I was on Suboxone a couple of years when I noticed some of the things mentioned in this thread. When I got off Suboxone, those issues improved greatly, but now that I'm a few years off of Suboxone, I've been experiencing some of those same feelings again. I take no medications whatsoever, I don't take any drugs, yet I've been noticing more and more how I feel blah a lot.

I don't know if Suboxone caused the original issues or if it's just a "this is life" thing?

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:01 pm 
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I too noticed this. I squeezed a couple of good years out of suboxone, was dating, socialising, had a great partner, job, study. Then about 3 years on sub I noticed myself getting more withdrawn. My sex drive, motivation, social life and mental health took a big hit. Interestingly around this time I got my testosterone levels checked and I was diagnosed with clinical low testosterone. They also experimented with various antidepressants. Ironically my instability at this stage I started using heroin again, and had the relapse from hell.

Today I'm 6 months off all opiates, and feeling so much better in all areas of my life.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:10 pm 
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Yes, this has been a significant finding of mine in what I have seen in patients.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:40 pm 
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This is how i feel about sub


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:52 pm 
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This is an interesting phenomenon. I have experienced what everyone has been posting. No sex drive, lack of motivation for my work..able to sleep for up to 18 hours at a stretch. I was in this functional but odd cocoon. My state of mind led to negative consequences, particular with career, which had always been my #1 priority.

I am not sure how much of this is a result of Suboxone. My life got better immediately when I stopped taking Lortab. I had been physically quite sick from the amount of Tylenol I was ingesting and I regained a functional life. I remember thinking how great it was to feel good and that I felt optimistic.

A few years later I had descended into a bad place, mixing suboxone with alcohol and abusing the suboxone itself. The method I used doesn't matter I don't want to encourage anyone else to go down the road I did.

So fast forward to my taper, I am on 1.25 mg to 1.5 mg a day. My ambition has returned as has my interest in working out and having sex! Much less sweet food cravings, that was big too. On the negative side, I am very emotional, my feelings are so close to the surface that I can break into tears from the smallest thing.

I don't know if these personality and mood issues are related to Suboxone or just me.


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Yes, the sweet cravings for some of who are on Subs is crazy!


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I am in exactly the same boat after 3+ years on this med...it is the main reason why I am going to make the jump in 2 weeks. I have become a chubby, lazy, lethargic, recluse. I used to work out after the kids got the bus...straight to the gym. Now it's straight to the couch...until work (I work 3-11). I nap alot, never done that before. The thought of waking up and being active all day is daunting. I have never felt so negative about myself EVER. Now... Sub has saved me and has done me good over the years and it wasn't always like this. The first year was outstanding...no depression, motivation, happier etc...This last year has been tough- I lost my mom at 59 last summer from pancreatic cancer then my step dad moved away after her death which left me with a house to clean out and a whole lot of grief :( , I did complete school and change careers but it all seems like a dream. I'm in a fog, cant think straight, my memory is really really bad and its like I just go day to day. One thing that bothers me is I don't *think* ,if anyone gets that one. My mind is always blank, I have to force myself to think anymore. I used to have thoughts running through my head all the time, have some optimism...I have ZERO optimism (last year year and half) and now that I am tapering I AM feeling more and it's scary. I haven't quite fully grieved for my mom due the Suboxone haze and feelings are coming to the surface now. I am so looking forward to my mind coming back to life...good or bad. I want to find myself and get some optimism back. Oddly enough when I think about going off this stuff in 2 weeks...I feel OPTIMISM. It makes me look forward to this upcoming time and only then can I move on. I just want to *feel* and I pray I can finally feel content. I have lost 6 years to active addiction and 3+ on meds. My youngest is 10 and that's a whole lot of her life! It saddens me. I sit here and look at all the photos in my living room and I remember exactly what I was on when the pic was taken , how I felt at the time and where I got it. Pathetic. One os of me and my dad who lives by the shore. It was the day I took some Roxis from him (always clipped from my dad who never knew. When I first got on Sub, I confessed...he still never knew :roll: ) we went to the boardwalk to the rides with my kids...I was standing by the log flume, got wet...PANICKED...and ran to the bathroom, took off my shorts, turned my pockets inside out and licked the goo out of my pocket. :lol: Man...the stuff an addict does. I can tell some stories as can everyone else...I'm rambling. Good luck to you and keep updating! This forum is quickly becoming a huge support network for mw and in 2 weeks I will really need it!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:54 am 
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I'm glad someone posted this topic. I was severely depressed on Suboxone. The whole time pretty much which was almost two years. Besides that I had no energy whatsoever or at least didn't want to do a damn thing. My relationship wasn't the greatest, especially sex lol. Now that I'm about 3 weeks clean I still feel like crap but listening to music like constantly, helps me alot. Sex is AMAZING being clean now :-) I'm very stiff and heavy feeling but going to go for a walk... something I would of NEVER done on Suboxone!


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This post is amazing, I'm so glad I read it. I have read dozens of forums and researched suboxone from so many different angles, but it is very rare to read about how suboxone drains your personality. I understand that sub is an opiate, and I must credit sub for giving me time to get the rest of my life in order. I was able to mentally separate myself from actively seeking drugs as a daily job and repair many other parts of my life, all while out of jail and not engaging in dangerous behavior. For that I will always be grateful. But more and more I believe that suboxone should not be a long term replacement. Of course this is a very individual decision, and everyone is different in the recovery process and I would never tell someone else how to recover. For me however I was on suboxone for over 4 years when i should have been off in 2 years max.

Like many other posters have mentioned I slowly lost myself the last 2 years. I wasn't engaging in dangerous behavior but I really wasn't engaging in any behavior. It reminds me of someone who either slowly puts on weight or slowly loses weight- the people that you see every day don't really notice the difference, it's only when you see someone that you haven't seen in a long time that the difference is large. I slowly became a zombie. I stopped going out, making excuses why I couldn't make things or saying I wasn't feeling well. Eventually people stopped calling. I used to sit in my car with the music cranked up to 11 and get goose bumps from a good song- I actually forgot I used to enjoy that until I quit suboxone. I used to get amped up at football season and Halloween and go to games and have a great time, but I couldn't tell you the last time I have done that.

I am only just at the beginning on my recovery (30 days completely clean). But I am enjoying things again. I get goose bumps at good songs again. My emotions are out of control but at least I am feeling something again. I mentioned in another post that my eyes are clean which means I can see all the damage that I have caused. It is going to be a long road ahead, with many relationships to repair, but at least I have myself back again. I forgot what a fun guy I was.


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Hey doingit-
I can relate to a lot of what you posted. I'm about 3.5 months off subs now and WAY more engaged in "life". I also "slowly" withdrew over 8 years, so really didn't understand how much it was effecting the parts of me that make "me, me". I also withdrew from friends and family (slowly but surely). The good news is, when I reached out again, all those wonderful people were happy to welcome me back into their lives. I had some apologies and amends to make, (I mostly just said I was generally going through a rough time, and a time of "growth" which is true!), but when I did, I found people genuinly kind and forgiving, and happy to also have me "back".
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