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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Dont beat yourself up......If I was Irish I would find as much information about you as possible....your name...where you live...work...all that stuff and then sue the shit out of you for hurting his feelings like that. That was totally uncalled for and I am willing to be a witness for him...hey I probably am going to sue you too.....just for the hell of it......I am probably going to sue everyone on this site...includng myself.......

gosh I wish we could have some fun now and then....recovery doesn't always have to be so serious. I have been good all weekend....so everyone save it......I know..I am a bad boy and I will be asking for forgiveness. I am really starting to love the people here and consider this an outlet for us in our recovery. And yes I am sorry for joking around....but seriously we need to let it out once in awhile and sometimes people take offense..

For real I will pray for Irish...remember we are all responsible for own recovery and some take it differently than others. Those that do not think I am even slightly funny......I am sorry.....my ex wife (surprise) used to say it all the time......


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:51 pm 
Yes, you ARE very funny! I'm over it, let's not talk about it ANY MORE!!! But seriously, does anyone think that Tiger Wood's sex problem with all of these prostitutes, models, and porn stars really qualifies as an addiction? If so, I guess his "suboxone" would be to have a whore on call all the time :twisted:
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I'm pretty sure if there was a federal law against hoarding prescription meds... it would be found at the following:

http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/csa.html

The problem being there is a massive amount of information on the site and if there, would not be easily found. I skimmed thru the scheduled prescription drugs part and couldn't find anything.

I think the only thing to worry about would be a vague local or state law in which an ambitious prosecutor might throw in a charge [if they had other pending charges] to see if it would stick or else to help motivate a plea agreement.

As long as we don't sell or give our subs to someone else... I can't image a legal issue here. Our dr's are focused in the other direction [taking them too soon] and don't believe they have considered this yet. If it ever becomes an ongoing and publicized problem... you can bet a drug company will capitalize on it by mfg some kind of "potency losing pill or tablet"

Based on the article and study by the military... my guess is that when stored properly... subs will last for at least a few yrs.


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I agree with reraise, I don't think we have to take this so seriously. We should be able to make an "off the cuff remark" every now and then without everyone swooping down to correct us. It seems some people here take great pride in correcting others. I may even be guilty myself. This is a forum where we talk about our recovery and our experiences. I think most of us aren't doctors or lawyers on here, so we may say things that aren't correct from time to time and that is not intended as "professional" advice. I know sometimes I have wanted to comment but then feel I have to think twice about what I'm going to say, or qualify my statement so as not to be misunderstood. Thats a shame.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:37 pm 
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Found this post, albeit an older one, doing a Search. I can't believe that people are missing the so-called "Elephant in the Room!" How can one "Hoard" medication, if they are subscribed a certain amount, even if it's PRN? Being in the Field I know people save meds from each script, the go and have it refilled again on a monthly basis. That is illegal. That is Fraud. They're already reigning in tighter controls so people whom are serious are having more and more of a difficult time getting the meds they need due to abusers... and if you're saving from eaach script, have left-overs and still get your script filled again the next month while having said leftovers you are committing FRAUD! Because of that many Dr's now require their patients, if they want to remain that Dr's patient, to bring in their scripts, used and unused packages.. All of them.. Come up a package short and they will kick you out and let the next "Sub" Dr. you find know! They are not kidding around. Also. Most people whom are prescribed Subs will have to read and sign a comprehensive form as well as submit to random drug testing. This is not currently required of all Dr's prescribing Subs, but it will be soon thanks to the Hoarders! And , not to be rude but I know it will come off that way especially to those whom are practicing this, if you can see by now I'm not talking about left over meds that you are totally done with and never use again vs. re-filling the same script monthly while stashing away a few extras here and there, you legally abusing a controlled substance...you need to get honest, get real and if you still don't get it and are making excuses perhaps you need to check you IQ at the door. There is a difference.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:36 pm 
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I find this topic very interesting because my doctor actually has encouraged me to put up some of my Suboxone for a situation like bad weather, illness, (me or doctor) etc, that would prevent me from getting to a scheduled appointment or pharmacy. I have to drive over two hours one way to see my Suboxone doctor, and nearly an hour to get to my pharmacy. These are not excuses, they are facts. If one of those situations occurred and someone's rx was due to be refilled that person would go into uncomfortable perhaps miserable withdrawal without their Suboxone depending on how long the delay until they could get to their doctor or pharmacy for a refill. also,I didn't have to sign anything that said I couldn't do this. I did however agree to only use one pharmacy to fill my prescriptions. This is actually a pretty common practice, even among people who take their recovery seriously. I happen to be a person who takes my recovery seriously, and don't feel that my recovery is in jeopardy, because I have some medication put up for an emergency type situation. I am real and honest about my recovery, and am NOT abusing my medication.


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Not saying you are.. but my not saying isn't the same as what I believe. Your Dr. may soon not be legally allowed to do that without losing his privilege for prescribing Suboxone altogether making those whom truly comply having to look elsewhere where it may be a true hardship. I've never heard of that!!! EVER!! I work with Dr's. If your Dr is doing that he won't be prescribing Subs for long as too many take advantage. As you probably already know not just any Dr. can prescribe it. This is now becoming a matter of their License and Livelihood. I'm willing to bet he won't be able to do that much longer. Now more and more Dr's have to PROVE to the DEA that patients aren't saving any Subs even for a rainy day. The patient now has to verify every days worth of Suboxone prescribed b sowing empty packages, you cannot throw them out, and filled ones that have not been used. They all have to equal up to what the Dr. prescribed you both used and unused. If it hasn't hit your state yet it will! That being said, not saying you are an abuser.. only you know if you are not in denial if you are or not. But my Dr. wouldn't let that fly. That's why I acted responsible and I made appt's a few days before I ran out so nothing like that would happen. Sorry, it seems like people have an excuse for everything. What are you going to do when that excuse is taken away? Be a heck of a lot more responsible in scheduling appts.! I'm glad they are now doing this. I'd hate to see people whom truly need it and would act in an adult like manner and be responsible, to get what they need. Unfortunately, too many patients such as yourself and too many lenient Dr's have taken away from us whom use it as indicated in a responsible manner. I was on it for a year and a half and never ran out. My Dr's staff always scheduled me appts' so I wouldn't. If I had an excuse as to why I couldn't make it would fly ONCE! The next time he would have dropped me off his list. There is a very long list and if you don't think Sub Dr's report to other Sub Dr's your history of taking this med, along with the DEA..They know. too.. You're headed for disaster! It's already law in my state and several other states and soon will be law in yours. They are cracking down. DES has all of our numbers! When this law came into effect in my state the number of Dr's whom were able to prescribe Suboxone dropped by more than 3/4ths! Hmm.. I wonder why? Sorry, but what you stated doesn't fly with me.. If you were that concerned you would make your appts come hell or H2O! I bet when they change the laws in your state, (coming SOON!) and that you will be forever dropped because you took advantage of a dishonest Dr. and will never again be allowed to have them prescribed to you again. You'll learn. Straighten up now. This is a med that is VERY closely monitored and so is the Doc prescribing it. Be smarter than he is. There is big $$ in it for him.. There is the potential to lose a life saving drug in it for you.. Pride or Intelligence.. Which will you choose?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:23 pm 
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my appointments are scheduled well in advance, however, though cannot schedule bad weather pour road conditions, or the flu. I'm not making excuses for anything, and I don't frankly care if anything I say flies with you or not! I don't come here to argue, neither do most members. Your very tone is argumentative. you seem pretty angry about something, but I've got nothing to do with it. you put a post up for people to reply to, and I did just that, without being rude to you. I'd appreciate the same courtesy!
my actions dont put your treatment or anyone else's in jeopardy, so perhaps you are the one making excuses, don't blame me or anyone else for your problems! as far as intelligence goes,I responded to another one of your posts that was inaccurate as it was rude also, perhaps you should make the choice of intelligence or pride.


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I already did. Your posts showed inane excuses. You never answered my question of what you would do when they clamp down on your Dr and you g=can't get your "Extras?" An addict at their finest. And one is rude, in my book by having to justify behavior that if it were truly a problem for them they would work it out! When you were abusing your drug of choice don't even hand me the line of BS that ANYTHING stopped you from doing it when you were jonesing! I want intelligent people whom are serious about their health and recovery to respond.. not excusers and abusers. Sticks and Stones. I've not been rude but I do call a spade a spade.. Me doust thinketh you protesteth to much!


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Hi. You're new. You're also abrasive and rude and probably trolling.

If you want to be sanctimonious, go somewhere else.

If you want to stay, contribute to conversations without being so antagonistic. We can disagree here, but we keep discussions civil.

LIzzie, there are plenty of members here who have reported the same thing about their doctors and who have an emergency stockpile. If the world were perfect and perfectly black and white there would be no need to have an emergency supply. Since most of us live in the real world, however, it's in our best interest to employ some common sense.

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Whatever. I'm only "abrasive" to those whom I obviously hit a bad note with." Not one has been able to intelligently debate me. Just because I'm new doesn't mean I'm a troll. So grow up! I didn't know you had to be of 1st grade intelligence to join! Have one person here whom truly wants help and they will see kindness that you probably don't even know how ti give seeing as you are into cliques. You scare away people whom want help. No one of you have posted on this thread for years.. Yet your coming out of the TROLL WOODS. None of you have asked me an intelligent question..says more about you than me... Why not? You might be surprised.. but then maybe your too active in your addiction to want to be helped or have others helped. Why not be kind to the new person. I didn't start out abrasive... The responder to my post did!. Nice try at an Ad Hominem attack. Show your inellligence or lack there of.

Seriously, If anyone is truly concerned or interested I will help. In a very kind way. Not in the broad stroke these people painted me. Don't be afraind of me .. that's what they want.. Because if you are in their warped mines I lose power to help and they gain it to rule the comments.. It must be all they have.. I've given my story but yet heard none back except excuses. So if you are a truly intelligent reader you should have picked up on that and take these.... with a grain of salt.


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Please! I would rather get help from anyone in the world as long as it wasn't from Dragonlady. Even though she is very 'intelligent'. I know she is because she tells me in every post.
Geez Louise!


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