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I wanted to share my story with the community and get some feedback. Like many people I have chronic pain. I served in the US Army (101st Airborne) and was injured. I blew my knee out (ACL/MCL) and got out of the Army in 2000 with Disability Benefits. At the time I was in pretty good health (though gaining weight) at 6' 1" and 235 lbs which was up from my "just out of Boot Camp" weight of 190 lbs. I landed on my feet once out of the Army luckily because of the job I picked when I got in, Communications. I started working for a major wireless company the same day I got home making good money. Things were good.

Being a lot less active and still injured I steadily gained weight. But 2001 I was up around 275 lbs and getting heavier. One day in 2003 I was helping my wife pick up the house and bent down to dust the table. "POP". My back tensed up and I went to lay down because I knew something was not right. I woke up a couple of hours later and tried to stand up. I fell flat on my face! I could not feel my legs, every muscle in my body tensed up and EXTREME severe pain set in. It was so bad after about 30 minutes of trying to help me get up and even calling my parents to help my wife ended up calling 911. It was probably the worst pain I had ever been in. I was put in the Ambulance and started on straight Morphine via IV. I can remember that rush to this day. Once I got to the hospital they did X-Rays, & an MRI but ended up giving my Percocet and sending me home to rest. Follow-up with a Neurosurgeon.

Long story short I had just crushed my disk at L5-S1 causing a severe bulge to the right. My back would never be the same again. Once the initial inflammation went down (after about a week in bed) I was able get around again. I started seeing one of the "best" Spine Specialists in Dallas/Fort Worth. Things went up and down for a long time and for years I did Epidural Steroid Injections, Physical Therapy, and was off/ on different pain medicines. The Neurosurgeon said because he could not "pin point" exactly where the nerve was pinched he could not do surgery. Nothing seemed to ever help. I was hopeless. With my latest "spell" or "flare up" I had been on 10+ Norco 10/ 325 mg pills a day for over a year (steadily crept up to that) and the pain did not seem to end. My Neurosurgeon finally switched me over to a Pain Management Specialist (all part of the same practice) who wanted me to switch from Norco 10's to either Oxycontin or a Morphine pump. Now I have not mention but I am only 33 years old. I have 3 small kids, an awesome wife and a good job! I could not just give up and go on extreme medications like that. I would not let myself. That is where it all began.

I made my mind up and stopped. I got 1 last massive bottle of Norco's from my Dr in February 09 and started my taper (which did not work as well as I hoped as I kept cheating). I paid for that in the end. I went through about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks of pretty horrible withdrawal. I was very physically sick and my mind started to go. I started getting very depressed, couldn't sleep at all, and had a lot of anxiety. It was really bad. I knew I had to do it though. I went 45 days without any pain medications at all but I was about to kill myself. Literally.

I knew that the physical withdrawals were over but the mental stuff would not calm down or go away. I went to see new Family Dr. I wanted to be honest with him and start fresh with a new Dr. I told him I had been under that care of a Pain Management Clinic and went "Cold Turkey" off pretty heavy Pain Killers. I told him I was really Depressed, had BAD anxiety and could not sleep. This Dr was awesome. First thing he did was asked me if we could pray. PRAY? I had never had a Dr ask me to pray with him. It was refreshing. He then talked to me a while about Depression and my family history. (I have a recorded family history of suicide and depression.) First SSRI we tried was Lexapro. He also ran a battery of blood tests and gave me some Lunesta for sleep. He said if I started feeling suicidal and to talk to call him (he gave me his cell phone #).

The first thing we found out was when my blood test came back I was almost anemic from a B12 Deficiency. I had never heard of B12 Deficiency but after ready about it I should have had a 400 to 800 level on my blood test. I was at 190. Anything below 200 is dangerous and can cause severe mental issues. I started getting shots right away to bring this level up. In the meantime I talk to the Dr about Lunesta tasting horrible and not really helping me sleep. The Dr switched my to Ambien CR. He said to come back in 2 weeks.

So after 2 more weeks (which means I had been on Lexapro for about 5 or 6 weeks) I went back and was still having a lot of Depression issues with suicidal ideation. So this time the Dr decided to switch my SSRI to Luvox CR and recommended I start seeing a Therapist. I was really nervous about seeing a Therapist because I had never been to one but I needed help.

That same week I got in to see a Therapist. At that point I was very roller coaster. One minute crying and the next laughing. Nothing seemed to control my emotions. At one point the Therapist recommended I check into an In-Patient Hospital. That first session was 2 hours and I must have really looked like a nut. But we made it through.

After about the 3rd week of Luvox CR I went back to my Family Dr because I was still up and down with emotion. I was unable to control my moods and emotions at all. I talked to my Family Dr for about 30 minutes and answer a lot of questions he had. He mentioned that after only 3 weeks Luvox has really not even kicked in so we needed to keep taking it. After a while I noticed the questions he was asking me where ones I had been asked before in school. He was giving me an ADHD evaluation. Towards the end of our visit he said he definitely though I had ADHD w/o Hyperactivity and that this could be exacerbating my uncontrollable depression and anxiety symptoms. He then asked me to talk to my Therapist about ADHD and wrote my a prescription for Vyvanse 30mg.

A few weeks went by and slowly I seemed to be doing a little better. I had to ask my wife to quit her job to be home with me in the evening because my mental state was not good for the kids. Her being home and the medications seemed like it was maybe starting to work a little. So after about a month I went back for refills and my Dr said I should go up on both my SSRI and my Vynanse but if I continue to have trouble controlling my emotions I might need to see a Psychiatrist for a 2nd opinion. Like my Family Dr said he can treat just about anything but is not an expert in Mental Health so feel free to get a 2nd opinion.

So I started calling Psychiatrist on my healthcare website. I called and called. After over 12 different calls the SOONEST I could get in to see a Psychiatrist was 6 to 9 months! I had never seen a Psychiatrist (or even known anyone who has) so I had no idea they were in such demand. In the end I called my companies employee assistance program who helped me get an appointment but it was still a 30 day wait.

Over the next 30 days everything really seemed to level off. My B12 level finally came back to normal. My wife is home and my medications are really helping. I can tell such a huge difference in my work now that I am on Vyvanse. It has helped me so much. So just like most things once I am feeling good it is time to finally see the Psychiatrist.

I did not know what to expect. I had asked my Therapist and Dr about this Psychiatrist. Both said he is well respected and been working in the area for 25 years. I get to his office and like any other Dr fill out the normal paperwork. I wait about 10 minutes and then a Nurse comes to get me. She takes me to her office (I guess all of there Nurses are Mental Health Certified Nurse Practitioners) and started on the interview paperwork. We spend about 25 minutes going through Family history and symptoms/diagnosis all the while she is writing it all down. I tell her about the Pain Killers and how the withdrawal kind of triggered the really bad depression, the whole story just like on this post. After we finished she said she would be back in a few minutes.

About 5 minutes later the Psychiatrist came back with the Nurse and said I could come to his office now. I was asked a few questions about my medications, how much Norco I was on and how long ago I got off and when the depression symptoms started. Literally 5 questions then he was writing me Prescriptions. He upped my Luvox from 150mg to 200mg, upped my Vyvanse from 50mg to 60mg, upped my Ambien from CR 12.5 to 20mg (not time released) and then said he was going to give me something that was not addictive to help with "symptoms" I was still having from Norco withdrawal. This sounded weird to me but I took the scripts and was on my way. He said to come back in 2 weeks for a checkup with the Nurse. On the way back to work I dropped the scripts by the Pharmacy.

Later that day on the way home I picked up the scripts. 3 of them I already knew well because I was already on them. The last one I had never heard of. I always research all my medication thoroughly before taking them. So to the internet I go. Suboxone. Heroin Addiction... Opiate Addiction... I had not taken any Opiates in 3 months now. Why did I get this? Maybe it is just something to kick start my head and like the Psychiatrist said "not addictive" so I took one. HOLY CRAP! It was like taking 10 Norco's! Like I said I have not taken opiates in 3 months! I was high as a kite for like 36 hours straight. It was disturbing. Why would the Psychiatrist give this to me after I told him I had kicked Norco's on my own? Is he trying to get me hooked so I keep coming to him? Why? I don't understand. I have made an appointment with my Family Dr again to ask him about why the Psychiatrist would prescribe this medication to me.

Anyone have any comments or suggestions? I am dumbfounded.


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Maybe its Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome. Take a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Acute_Withdrawal_Syndrome

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[web]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Acute_Withdrawal_Syndrome[/web]

Maybe he prescribed Suboxone for PAWS. Also, its possible that he's using it for depression because it sounds like the SSRI's never really did the trick for you. Suboxone is used sometimes for depression as well as opioid dependency.

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I personally did not feel high at all when I started on Suboxone and that was over 4.5 months since I had been completely off all opiates but I was horribly depressed and suicidal and uncontrollably anxious. I avoided other people at all costs it was no way to go through life. Of course I'd been abusing opiates for about 4 years before going inpatient the last time. All P.A.W.S. were gone not just a few ALL symtoms were gone literally within about 1hr of starting the Suboxone. I'm not a doc so not trying to say what's what but maybe psychiatrist thinks your symptoms are all P.A.W.S. related. I can also tell you that while I've heard others say they experienced a relative "high" when starting Suboxone that feeling goes away within a few days to a week. I can also tell you that in my experience Suboxone is not addicting and I've literally abused every other opiate known to man save perhaps loperamide (immodium) so if there were a way to abuse it I would certainly be abusing it now. Only you can decide if the medication is right for you but in my experience Suboxone saved me from continued abuse of opiates which more than likely would have ended in another O.D. and saved me from the suicide I was planning while being in protracted P.A.W.S. I can also tell you if you stay on Suboxone that the feeling of being on an opiate from what I've been told by several others who did feel a little high when going on Sub, will quickly go away within days to a week or so. You will feel very normal if you decide to stay on it also in my own personal experience taking more than prescribed has no increased effects. The only times I've heard of people abusing Suboxone it's always been purely psychological in that if the person goes back to taking the medication as prescribed they no longer have the urge to take more (which never happens with those abusing other opiates). In conclusion if it were me given the story you've just shared I would assume that alot of your symptoms ( depression, insomnia, inability to control emotions) are all P.A.W.S. related and I went through all of them after stopping abuse of other opiates. I would give the Suboxone a chance (not just take a couple days then stop but honestly give it a chance) and I'd be willing to bet that alot of the symptoms will go away as they did in my case. We welcome you to the site and we're glad you shared your story with us. Hang in there man I'm giving you my personal guarantee that in my experience Suboxone completely turned my life around and as I've said before yes it's an opiate, yes I've heard of some experiencing a relative "high" when they first started the Sub but the feeling will go away and as happened with myself I'd assume you'll be eventually feeling very normal again :D

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I don't have anything against this medication and would probably have loved to use it instead of going off Opiates the way I did, Cold Turkey but now that I am off and physically doing well I would not think that a Dr would want to re-introduce any opiate back into my system even if I did have PAWS without at least consulting me and talking about it in some detail. I mean like I said over that last 3 weeks things have really calmed down in my head. My depression is quite a bit better and my anxiety isn't really a problem at the moment. I do credit the Luvox and Vyvanse for helping this. I was going to the Psychiatrist kind of as a 2nd opinion and expected to have a nice long conversation with him. I wanted to then take his recommendations to my Family Dr and my family to make a decision if he wanted to change any of my medications. I feel like I was rushed through his office. I mean I had to wait 30 days for that appointment and it was a HUGE let down.

I would love to hear from the good Dr who runs this forum. Does he ever comment on posts? (Sorry if its a dumb question I am new.)

But I really appreciate everyone responses and support. It has been a really hard road for my family and I. I feel like I am just getting out of the woods and ready to get life going again but I get this curve ball thrown at me call Suboxone.

I have been on IV Morphine, pill Oxycontin, & Hydrocodone (I have used 200mg+ of Norco in a day before) but I swear when I took that Suboxone pill and let it melt under my tough it felt like I was more Euphoric than with high doses of any of the previously mentioned drugs. I have seen Heroin addicts shoot up and from looking at how they react that is what I was feeling. I actually thought I might be ODing. I kept almost falling over in my chair, could barely stay awake, had really bad nausea, and sweat through my clothes. The crazy thing was most of these symptoms last for HOURS! Even the next day I was still Euphoric and light headed. All that from 1 8mg/2mg pill. The Dr prescribed 2 a day (1 in morning, 1 in afternoon)! I would OD on that.


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Dr. Junig does comment on posts sometimes. He's been working on a book, so he hasn't been around as much lately. You can always send him a private message and see if he responds to that.

I don't know why your doctor would prescribe you Suboxone without telling you what it is and what it's used for. That seems strange at best and unethical at worst.

If I was you I wouldn't go back to that doctor. And I can understand why 8mgs of Suboxone would get you high/make you sick if you've been off opiates for a while. Your tolerance is probably much lower than it was when you were medicated all the time, and Suboxone is a strong drug. Unfortunately there is a lot of misunderstanding around Suboxone and how it should be used.

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Welcome to the site. First let me congratulate you on your bravery in dealing with your problems right away. It is not very often a guy is so open about his emotional state.
As far as your psychiatrist giving you the Suboxone, I will tell you that he was correct in telling you that you are still feeling the emotional effects from the Norcos.When taking them,it takes sometimes a year or more to undue the mental damage.Although you say that you felt you were over the symptoms- yes in a physical sense, but the depression and not sleeping are definite withdrawal symptoms from the Norco's. There are different ways to handle your situation.You could:

A) The cocktail of Luvox, Vynase, and Ambien could be all you need, and if it was working for you- I do not see a need to introduce Suboxone at this point, unless you were going to be taken off the Luvox and Ambien because you would not need them on Suboxone.In my opinion, adding Suboxone to everything else is over medicating you.

B) Stop taking all but the Suboxone, which I explained above.

I know the psychiatrist is correct in thinking you are still experiencing withdrawal from the opiates.If you were not taking anything at all, you would surely experience PAWS, possibly up to a year or longer. Of course all those other drugs would help, but nothing has been given enough time to see how well it works.Also,if you went to that psychiatrist for a second opinion, you must have felt it was a warranted visit.

Let me ask you this very important question... Did the doctor that gave you the Suboxone prescription discuss the drug with you at all? Did he bring up support groups, attending support meetings, counseling? Did he have you sign anything saying he discussed outside addiction support with You? Because he should have. If he just handed you the script with no other information, I would say he is not following the procedure for Suboxone treatment. Would you mind letting me know more?

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Thanks again everyone for the support. I have been learning to talk about my issues more lately and the anonymous nature of the internet really helps me open up to talk about my issues. I started writing a blog kind of like a journal until one of my good family friends stumbled upon it and freaked out about all the trouble I was having mentally. Suddenly I was getting calls from family and friends I had not heard of in forever because this person read I was really depressed and wanted to rally support for me. Needless to say I don't update my blog anymore. LoL

But my Family Dr is the one who suggested I seek out a 2nd opinion/ extra help from a Psychiatrist but that was when I was having ALOT of trouble controlling my emotions even with the medications he was prescribing. I think my Family Dr. wanted to reiterate that he would not be upset or hurt if I saw someone for additional help. He just wanted to make sure I was getting better.
The main issue with the timing of seeing the Psychiatrist was that when I was having the real bad stuff (suicidal thoughts, anxiety, erratic emotions) and started calling Psychiatrists I could not find anyone to see me. I spend like 2 weeks calling Psychiatrist which just made me even more depressed and upset like nothing was going to help or the Dr's did not give a shit. I was so upset I called my Employee Benefits Assistant Line and told them that I was having trouble controlling my emotions even on medication but called and called Psychiatrist on the list and no one was available. I called over 12 and all of them said 6 to 9 month wait list. The girls was nice and then did her own search then emailed it too me. She said if I did not find someone who can see me really soon on this list to call her back. She said she can force a consult for emergency cases but I would have no choice of Dr or location (just that it would be in Dallas/ Fort Worth). So I started calling. I only made it to the first number and they said 30 days out. I was so relieved to even find someone to see me I book it right away and stopped calling.

So now that I had the appointment I felt a little better. My family and I had already set a few things in motion right before this to help deal with my issues. My wife quit working. My mother and father started doing forced visits and trips out to do things with my kids and I. With all this plus my recent medication adjustments I was really feeling alot better. Not perfect but pretty good. After about the 3rd week I almost called the Psychiatrist to canceled the appointment but wanted to just "hear" what he would have to say about my history and issues. Little did I know he would take only 7 minutes to consult me.

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I really appreciate your response. Both my mother and brother have had multiple suicide attempts with long term depression. I was the one who went to the Army and was the emotional "rock" of the family. I knew when it got so bad I could not stop thinking getting my 40 Cal handgun out, taking out all my obnoxious neighbors then myself so my wife and kids would have all the insurance money and neighborhood to themselves I need to see someone quick. I got lucky with my new Family Dr. He is a really great guy so far. Things are so much better over the last few weeks so I think that really the Luvox and Vyvanse are changing my life. Vyvanse has helped me do things that I have never been able to do in my life so it is a wonder drug to me. I have slowly stopped taking Ambien because I don't want to get addicted to that too.

As far as the Dr. I sat with his MHCNP for about 25 minutes as she asked questions and filled out paper work. Once we finished she went back to get the Dr. 5 minutes later he comes up and takes me to his office. We sit down. He askes, "So what is going on?" I told him that I was doing a little better now but I have been suffering from bad Depression, Anxiety, and Insomnia. I mentioned I was on Luvox, and using Ambien plus seeing a Therapist. I threw in there that both my Family Dr and Therapist said they knew him. He asked about my Family Dr and said Oh yea I had a luncheon with him a few weeks back. Little Korean fellow huh. But we continued on and I added that my Family Dr. has also recently diagnosed me with ADHD w/o Hyperactivity also and that Vyvanse was really helping me in life and especially work. He asked when all the bad depression/anxiety started. I told him back in March about the time I quit seeing my Pain Management Dr and went through withdrawals from Norco's for a few weeks. He asked how much Norco was I on and for how long? I said about 10 Norco 10mg for over a year but I was completely stuborn and quit "Cold Turkey". He said Wow! That is great but could have been dangerous. He said So your depression got significantly worse when you stopped Opiates? I said kind of. I had always been a little bit depressed but it seemed to exacerbate the problems and brought on suicidal thoughts.
The Psychiatrist then stopped talking and starting writting prescriptions.
-First he said what is your dose of Luvox? I said 150mg. He said it doesn't even kick in until over 200mg. I give you a prescription for that.
-Then he asked what does Vyvanse I was on? I said 50mg. He asked how much I have left. I said about 10 days. He said OK we can up it to 60mg to help with your energy level in the day. Vyvanse 60mg 30 pills.
-Then he asked about Ambien. How much? How often? I said my Family Dr has me on a double dose. 20mg and I take it almost every night. He asked if I tried Ambien CR. I said yes but it did not work well for me because I could not get to sleep. So he wrote the script. Zolpidem 10mg 60 pills.
-Then he said... OK I am going to give you something that will help with your Opiate withdrawal. I looked at him kind of funny. He said this is a non-addictive drug that should help. Suboxone 8mg/2mg - take 1 in the AM and 1 in the afternoon. He have me 30 pills.
He then said to hold on he had to get his other prescription pad (you have to have a separate DEA # to write scripts for Suboxone). He then stood there in the door so I stood up. He said this should have you all set. Come see my Nurse in 2 weeks. Oh wait I need you to sign for your prescriptions. I did not really look at what I signed. I noticed it did have the Vyvanse (Schedule II)written on there and probably Suboxone too now that I think about it.

But that was it. I walked out to the scheduler's window, made my appointment and on my way to work I was. No questions about Suboxone, no counseling, no anything.


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OK- well, I stress that this is my opinion, and I am not a doctor. BUT- I feel that if you were fine with the drugs you were taking prior to the psyc. visit, then you should stick with that and not take the Suboxone. It is not a "cure all", and from how he handled the situation, do not go back!
Talk to your regular doctor, tell him what happened and that you are not comfortable taking the Suboxone because you were doing very well without it. I really do not feel at this point it is necessary to add Suboxone to your life.

Being an student for addiction counseling and the use of medication in recovery, I just feel it is important to know when Suboxone is needed, and when it is not.You made your feelings very clear about not wanting to reintroduce opiates into your life, and I respect that.You got through the worst of the withdrawals cold turkey, and NO it was not physically dangerous, nobody ever died from going through withdrawals from opiates cold turkey, I am sure they wish they were dead, but nothing more.The psychiatrist telling you Suboxone is not addictive is another sign that he is not qualified to administer the drug- if you were given a information sheet from the pharmacy about the drug when you filled the script, you will see a different story.

This is not a contest to see how many people we can get on Suboxone, and it really disturbs me that this doctor thought it was best for your situation.Again, personally- I don't feel you need it.
I am also glad you are working on stopping the Ambien.When I was in treatment,my psychiatrist gave me Trazadone which is an older anti-depressant to help me sleep and it was effective.If your sleep problems continue, you may want to ask your family doctor about it.

Please keep us informed about your plans, and glad you came here to discuss your situation.Even though I have expressed my feelings above, I also think you should be involved with a drug addiction support group of some kind, it will be very helpful to you!

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Thanks everyone! This is an awesome information board.

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Those are my thoughts exactly. I am going back to see my Family Dr first part of next week. He will sit and talk to me about this and about Suboxone. I am also going to bump by appointment up with my Therapist to next week because I need to discuss this whole thing with him too just to get it all off my chest.

I feel betrayed by this Psychiatrist. I mean I trusted this guy to try to help me or at a minimum say that my Dr. was on the right path so stick with his treatment. It seems he did not want to do that and wanted to get me into his practice "perminently". For most of you guys once you start taking Suboxone it is a long term solution, correct?

But I really feel for anyone who has had opiate issues as I definitely know how great they can be and then how back they get. I am not here to advocate any one treatment. It sounds like Suboxone is definitely an option for people who were on really large doses for long periods. Like I said if I had known anything about it before I might have tried it to get off the Norco but I thought it was either "Cold Turkey" (priviately) or go to an inpatient clinic (Which would be not as priviate. Co-Workers might find out then I would be labeled a Druggie at work for life.). My only option that allowed me to keep my respectability at work as take some vacation and go Cold Turkey in private.

But I have been reading around and will pray for you guys. Keep your heads up and drive yourself forward. It is tough. If anyone would like to talk I am always online via email tbwilson.comatgmaildotcom (& on Google Chat). I will let everyone know what my Family Dr and Therapist say about Suboxone and why the Psychiatrist would have given it too me. Have a great 4th everyone! Good Bless America & the 101st Airborne.

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