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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:44 pm 
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Hello all,

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This is actually only my second post ever (the first besides my introduction) and I would like to apologize in advance for posting about a topic that I am sure has been discussed at length already in other threads. I have simply not found the answers that I am looking for yet so I decided to make a new topic, please understand that I realize there are probably answers to my questions somewhere on this forum.

SO... I have been on Suboxone for about 4 months and I am absolutely thrilled with the results. I started off at 8mg TID (a lot, I know) and have since tapered to 2mg in the morning and SOMETIMES another 2mg in the evening. I have the 8mg strips and I just take a quarter of one every morning. Depending on how I am feeling later in the day, I may take another quarter.

My concern is about my sex drive. I am very close to being totally off of the Sub and plan to be before I marry in December, but I am very worried about my desire to have sex. I am able to achieve an erection (At first this was a problem, but tapering to a lower dose solved that), but I simply do not have much interest in sex most of the time. It is not a constant issue, as I do feel aroused on occasion, but I am nothing like I was before getting re-hooked on opiates (I had a pretty good run where I did nothing at all for several months and my sex drive was fantastic, I wanted it all the time. My fiance couldn't keep up). As of now, my fiance is much hornier than me almost all the time (I am a man by the way). It is so humiliating for both of us because they are lots of times when she clearly wants to mess around and I just do not feel up to it. I basically have to force myself to mess around with the woman that I love!! She is attractive and it is not her, but she can't help but feel hurt when this happens. She is very well educated and understand that it is the opioids causing the problem, but that is still not much comfort when she tried to turn me on and it simply doesn't work.

I suppose my question is: When will I feel ALIVE sexually again? How long do I need to be off of Suboxone before I will feel like the 23 year old man that I am when it comes to sex? I am getting married in December and would like to base my tapering process on how long it takes for my sex drive to return in full. I am so scared (irrationally, I know) that this will be a continuing problem for me so I am VERY interested in hearing stories from people that have experience similar effects. To be completely honest, the only reason I want to be off of Suboxone totally is because it brings my sex drive down so much.

Any feedback on this is absolutely welcome and I appreciate you taking the time to read this long post!!!!


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Hello Shandydesigns,

I hope you dont mind a response from a female :wink:

But I'm sorry, I cant say that I feel the same way, I have the opposite side effect !!!
And it would be great but I'm newly single (well, seperated from my husband, thats
another story for another forum),

Ive been on Suboxone since June and my sex drive went wild.
I guess a few guys have smiles on their faces around by me LOL

I'm sorry, I shouldnt joke, but seriously, I dont know what advice to give, but to say, maybe
you can just be there for your GF if you know what I mean (take care of her) and this
way at least you know she's satisfied while your working on this.

Congratulations on your up coming wedding, best of luck to you.


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This is actually a common issue for men on suboxone. I would suggest you see your doctor and have your T levels (testosterone) checked. It seems almost normal for men on sub to have lower T levels. If that's the case, your doctor can put you on supplements.

I'll leave it at that for now, as the men on here have actually been through this and can give you much more specific information than I can.

Just know that you are NOT alone and as you've found, as you lower the sub dose the side effect diminishes.

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I've found that sex drive returns pretty much the moment you go off Suboxone. Even if you go off it 2 or 3 days it manages to come back a bit, then when you start again it goes away again.

However when a guy stops sub (as with all opioids) another problem comes up. Let's just saay you become very "sensitive" down there, and it can take a few months to return to normal stamina. BUT at least the desire returns. And if a partner has become insecure about not being wanted, it can be good for them to feel like they're wanted so much their man can't hold it in.

So I spose you got two options. Testosterone supplementation, which for a young 23 year old probably wouldn't be that appealing. Or to gradually taper off Sub. But that's gotta be weighed up against the increased risk of relapse. There was a thread recently from a partner of a guy on Suboxone about how difficult she found dealing with her guy's lack of desire. If I remember right that didn't have a happy ending :|

I guess it also comes down to what your goals are too, whether you want to stay on Sub or whether you want to taper off at some point. If you wanna remain on Sub, and changing exercise / diet routine isn't enough, you may need to look at T supplementation. If you wanna go off Sub at some stage then this might be a good catalyst to give you a push in the right direction.

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Hey Shandy, sorry to hear of this. I am male by the way. I have the same experience I am at 8mg per day right now, been on suboxone/subutex for 8 months. Started out a 16mg per day and tapered to 8 mg per day. I too found that decreasing the dose of suboxone/subutex has improved my sex drive. You are very young to have Low-T, but it is wise to get checked for it. I do have low-T and get an injection once a month. It does help!!! My wife even learned how to give me the injection so I didn't have to burn time at the doctor's office. I am sure your fiancee could do the same. If you two are going to spend your lives together, I couldn't think of a better start then being open and honest with her about everything! There is no embarrassment when married!

Good luck! Hope you found this helpful.

Jackie, you are very cute! Your husband (ex-husband) is an idiot :)


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Sucks you are feeling this way....total opposite for us women, it seems. But I can say this...painpill use does cause low testosterone regardless of age... I read this in the Drs office ... At old pain dr... Itwas on the forms...you could be subject to monitoring of hormones, testosterone, blah blah while on meds...blah blah. So u should go see the urologist...couldnt hurt...and you can get testosterone in compound form to reduce terrible side effects...

I think from a chicks perspective she'd be much happier if you went and found the cause so she doesnt feel like its her...cuz she will feel that way a teensy bit....best of luck


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As soon as I got off the gear and onto suboxone, my sex drive went thru the roof! I am male.

Heroin so completely destroyed my sex drive, that as soon as I got off it, it was the complete reverse ?

Even before the days of subutex, my sex drive always went thru the roof after doing cold turkey. Going from a high level heroin addiction to something like subutex/ suboxone has always increased my sex drive every time


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As soon as I got off the gear and onto suboxone, my sex drive went thru the roof! I am male.

Heroin so completely destroyed my sex drive, that as soon as I got off it, it was the complete reverse ?

Even before the days of subutex, my sex drive always went thru the roof after doing cold turkey. Going from a high level heroin addiction to something like subutex/ suboxone has always increased my sex drive every time


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Some are in taking sex pills in order to increase their sex drive. However, making yourself fit and healthy could help you also to have a better satisfaction on sex.

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Pump some iron :)

Or start going to NA meetings. That place seems to transform many men into a sex crazed weirdos.


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This is a major concern for me too.

Suboxone looks like a promising tool to help me forget about drugs and work on things like my career, my family, my relationships -- in particular, my marriage. Particularly our sex life. Specifically, I'm having problems with things like ED and PE, but generally I'm just not interested in sex.

Our marriage counselor suggested I ask my doctor about viagra.


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HAHA Tee Jay! So true about the NA meetings.

Back to the thread- I have the same issues about the no interest in sex. But..the lower the dose, the more I have interest in sex.


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I asked this same question when I first got on Sub. I had ZERO interest in sex while on junk like everyone on an opiate. Simply put, suboxone is an opiate reguardless and albiet may not be as strong as H it still effects me much in the same way, just not as bad. I recently (this is my day#4) went from a big H habit down to 4 mg sub and in my sleep, after nearly a year of practically no orgasms at all I had 4 all while feeling like death trying to kick the H out of my system. Woke up quite shocked in fact... "My GOD" I thought..what the friggen hell? I did not really enjoy it bc quite frankly, I used H to purposely kill my sex drive BC relationships and me are (were) just as bad (in the past) as H and me... So I did get off suboxone, a little over a year ago, and my sex drive returned to normal ever elevated it at first... So please keep in mind that no sub = You, wide open for a relapse. Believe me I NEVER EVER thought I would find myself back on sub...... My Doctor told me just the other day. "You see Kim, the difference between you and people that do not use is, They do not ALLOW the drug to be an option" Sorry if this turned from sex drive to relapse lecture, but I experienced it FIRST HAND just this year. And like I said, I NEVER ever wanted or saw myself back on sub.
So you WILL get your drive back once you are off sub. Please cherish your happiness and your bride to be and stay off drugs...and fool around as much as you can to get that high bc THAT my friend is what makes being clean WORTH its weight IN GOLD and more!.......Blessings and good luck...


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It never comes back just another reason I'm enjoying life without suboxone in my system. Getting clean is def important but not being able to have sex fucking sucks!

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i also would like my tea lev to go up-up-up :lol: my feelings i wish they would come around a little more'.
as i get older i also find it hard to please family and others and very easy to piss um off.
i always thought about the opi- and alcohol and over doing it can make you wish you never said the night be for.
and now i have been on subs for 3 1/2 years and finding now that people and friends don't like my change and they feel i talk to much and don't understand me. i guess may be i say the things i wished i never said but being on subs i don't really need to worry that much about it. yet i feel my family and just some friends leaving my relation ship.SHANDYDIS_ i hope you get your desire and feelings back as soon as poss. i'm going for a test next week and they may be putting me on ANDROGELL . OR THEY MIGHT JUST RUB IT IN MY ARMPIT :lol:

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There's otc supps u can take....if test levels are below 200, which would be terrible for your age, than go on trt......u can always come off trt eventually ....u wont need much test to get u back to normal......

Pm me ....i been using hormones for years ...


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Ive only just come accross my problem which is my sex drive is through the roof I just cant stop im male 41 my partner 39 she's very horny but cant keep up the problem is I cant ejaculate my partner is having multiple orgasms and im having none its making her paranoid theres someone else dont get me wrong I enjoy this to an extent of course but can anyone identify and will this go away im on 16mg daily increased from 8mg daily about 4months ago I realise to some this may not seem such a bad thing but its putting my 7yr relationship on thin ice and I want to be able to share in the joy so to speak any info greatly appreciated


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My husband has been on suboxone for over a while now. And neither of us have any plans of coming off anytime soon. When we first got together, we had sex all the time and it seemed there were no side effects at all, now we aren't having sex at all. Could the sub just now beginning to have an effect on his sex drive? I take it too and have no problems from my end, but I wonder if prolonged use will manifest side effects or if that is the problem at all? It's tough being the woman and not understanding what's going on you know? Any help from anyone who had been through this same thing? And I'm wondering the same thing you asked....is it temporary or will it come back? It seems the lower the dose the less sex drive there is. it's all very confusing


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I do know that men can have endocrine issues on opiates and your husband should get his testosterone checked. It could be Low.

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I would not recommend doing testosterone treatment. Low sex drive is very common on Suboxone for men. Trust me when I tell you that your sex drive will be back in full force after you get off Suboxone in December. Until then I would recommend dealing with the problem as naturally as possible: Exercise, eating healthy, etc. Taking drugs for problems caused by drugs you are taking is an endless cycle.

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