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 Post subject: SUBOXON AND BENZOS
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:26 pm 
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My boyfriend is on Suboxon. We drive several hours to see his prescribing doctor. This doctor, who is a psychiatrist, refused to prescribe valium to my boyfriend because he said mixing the 2 could be dangerous. He has taken Valium off and on for 15 years for anxiety. He didn't always abuse benzos. Well actually,he abused everything...paill pills, benzos, heroir, crack, coke, etc....but there were times that he had his prescription Valium and would take it as prescribed. Anyhow, he went to a different doctor today her in town to get back on medication for ADHD and he walks out with 5 different prescriptions, one which is for Valium. This physician is aware that he is being prescribed Suboxon by a different doctor. I don't know what bothered me more, that he was prescribed Valium after his Subox doctor said it wasn't a good idea or the fact that I have seen him abuse it in the past and now he has a bottle of it. Honestly I think its the latter that bothers me so much.

So I'm asking for the advice of those who understand addiction better than myself. If he abused Valium at times in the past (with periods of using it as prescribed as well) will restarting this medication not just remind his mind of why he abused it and liked it in the first place?

He has done so well, almost 7 months clean, and I don't want to see things spiral out of contol again. I'm scared.


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 Post subject: Be VERY Careful
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:42 pm 
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Hi althea,
You should tell your boyfriend to be very Careful mixing Valium and Suboxone.... The makers of Suboxone Strongly recommend that you DON'T mix sedatives with Suboxone.... Their words are " it could be Deadly"... Not trying to scare you just want to make sure you know the facts!!!. You can go to any Drug store website look up Suboxone and look under precautions and you will see the warnings there...... Good Luck

The following is on the CVS/Pharmacy Website:

"Do not use this medicine together with alcohol or with sedatives such as Valium® or Xanax®. Used together, these combinations could result in death"


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Hi Althea and welcome:

I think your concerns are valid ones. He shouldn't have been given the Valium against his Suboxone doctor's orders (just my opinion). That doctor knows his drug history and his suboxone history better than this new doctor. Speaking of which, it sounds like he did some doctor-shopping, which is a sign of active addiction. I think your concerns about him abusing them are also reasonable. I also used to abuse my xanax and if I had them now I probably would do it again. There are the normal dangers of mixing suboxone and benzos, but if he abuses the benzos the danger is so much greater. Specifically, both medications slow the respiratory system, which accounts for the risk of death.

I'm not trying to scare you more than you already are, but as I said, I think those fears are valid. It sounds like perhaps it's time to have a talk with him. If he insists on taking the valium, what if you held it for him so he doesn't abuse them? Do you think he'd agree to that? Most clean addicts fear going back into that vicious cycle. Personally, I would willingly give the meds to my husband if for whatever reason a doctor decided I needed them.

I'm sorry if I've frightened you. Please let us know how everything's going.

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everything has already been said you need to know. but the thing that is scary is he might get kicked out of his suboxone program if he is tested and a benzo pops up. then your worrys will be even worst cause the scare of relasps ebecomes a part of this which nobody wants to happen to him or you to be put threw that. i think you should call his suboxone dr and let him know whats going on b4 he goes their and tells him he wont pop up for any drugs then he does and one thing ive found out threw sub users at meetings and so fourth is sub dr do not play with benzos and lies. i know a few guys who have been kicked out of programs for absuseing benzos. and you should also call this new dr hes seeing and tell her that his sub dr refused him valium and now hes going to you for it against his suboxone dr will if he knew. if i was you i would confront your bf and tell him what he is doing is wrong. and if you are strong enough flush them down the toilet.

in no way do i want to scare you but ive seen to many good friends relapse cause of getting kicked out of their program for absuseing drugs.


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My Sub Dr drug test's me every appointment that I have. He has told me flat out that any benzo's in my system are a deal breaker and I will be kicked out of the program period! There is also another tool he uses called the prescription monotoring system. Bottom line is he can put my name into a data base and see exactly what I have been prescribed from any Dr. I used to think that the pharmacy's didn't really know what I was taking or which Dr I went to because I would sometimes not use my insurance when I filled a script. Wrong! Dr shopping is now a felony. I had a bad experince one time at Rite Aid when I had filled a script for Vicodin 2 weeks prior at a different pharmacy. I think it was a CVS. Anyway the pharmist at Rite Aid refused to fill a script for Percocet saying I was Dr shopping and she would call my pain specialist and explain what I was doing. Also, she could call the police. I thought, " What a bitch" I did talk my way out of that one.
Bottom line is my Sub Dr used this data base to see exactly what I was taking. He found out that I had a prescription for xanax prescribed the month before. I never really took them so it was not an issue but if I refilled them, he would know. I'm not willing to take that chance. I hope that helps. I'm not trying to scare you but it could become an issue if your state uses this same type of data base. Most states do now because of the abuse of pain medication.


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