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oops........responding might have been your first one......


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ReRaise wrote:
oops........responding might have been your first one......


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I made it very clear in my reply that I didnt want to start a debate and that Im not a doctor and that Im sure some people either need or think they need 24mg. Lets just leave it alone.


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PUELLAPEA wrote:
I made it very clear in my reply that I didnt want to start a debate ...


Does saying you don't want to start a debate mean you want to express your opinion, but other people can't reply with a differing opinion? It seems like if someone doesn't want to start a debate or take part in a debate they would just stop continuing to debate or not put forth a debatable topic in the first place.


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Look. This is what i said, exactly:
I dont want to get into a debate, because Im sure there are cases where 24mg is necessary, but I read studies on suboxone inductions with hundreds of patients and the max induction dose that it took for any of them to be stabilized was 12mg. I dont have a link to it, but I can try and find it. The doctors thoughts were something along the lines of that some of the patients FELT like they needed more, but that was only because of their addictive brains and habbits.
Im not argueing that some people may need 24mg, just saying what I read.

The reason I said that is because I was explaining WHY I said that I didnt think people needed 24mg most of the time. Numerous doctors have said that during suboxone inductions way too often people are given too much meds. All I was doing was clarifying myself, not starting a debate. All I have to base my opinion are the facts Ive read. You needed 24mg. Thats great, I hope that worked for you. I dont care how much suboxone people take. In the initial post, the guy (or girl) was only going to be on subs for a short time and my thoughts are, if you have to get on and off really quick, you might as well start on the lowest dose you can tolerate.


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PUELLAPEA wrote:
...In the initial post, the guy (or girl) was only going to be on subs for a short time and my thoughts are, if you have to get on and off really quick, you might as well start on the lowest dose you can tolerate.


that's a very good point, in my opinion.


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I had a huntch, SubJohn, so I checked back to see if you may have been on 24mg at some point.

Interesting!


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may we all succeed in our attempts to improve our lives with or without Suboxone


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