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 Post subject: Re: Struggling to start
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:01 pm 
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You're coming from a 120mg a day oxy habit, you're about a 16 on the COWS and you're at 23 hours.....I think you're safe to start with a small amount. You're probably actually safe to take your whole dose, but start out small and go from there just to be sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:24 pm 
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I took a tiny piece 20 minutes ago. Other than a bad taste in my mouth not really feeling a whole lot of difference yet. May take another fleck when I get home. And by tiny I mean .25 MG if that.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:33 pm 
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Ok. Took the second tiny tester and waited 30
More minutes. Now took a sliver. All in all probably close to 1mg. WD's are not getting worse. May be getting better. Have another sliver prepared. May take it as I think the danger of precip has passed. Anyone concur.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:41 pm 
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It sounds like you're in the clear, but I'd stick with maybe another 1mg dose to make sure. That would total 2mg (give or take) and you should know for sure whether you're feeling better or worse.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:16 pm 
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Okay WDs symptoms are definitely down. Legs and back really hurt. I would say I'm in a milligram maybe a touch over. I am now 27 hours past my last OXY dose. I think I am safe taking another milligram that would be it for the day. I actually ate some popcorn because I was hungry. That's the first food since a breakfast burrito this morning. I think all of this is good news. I think the next test is sleep tonight.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:48 pm 
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Hey Mike,

Yay!!!! You made it!!!! I would totally take at least another 1mg before bed, if not you won't rest very good. After what your body went through today, you need that rest!

What is your plan for tomorrow? Have you decided what dose you are going to go with now that your danger of PW is over with?

Good job dude, I'm proud for you!

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Welcome to Suboxone, Mike! :D

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Hi all,

This will be my last report tonight. I finished at 4mg. I think that is enough. Took my last dose around 3 hours ago and managed to eat. Don't really feel any WD. Legs and back hurt though. Not sure what that is about. I am hoping the Aleve helps with that. I am going to try and sleep now. Hopefully that won't be a huge challenge.

Anyway. I will report in tomorrow. Have a charity walk in the morning. 6 hours ago I was thinking no way in a flying h*** that would happen. Now. Why not? I am not sure how I would describe how I feel. So I will reserve that for another day or so after I normalize. At this point I plan on taking 2mg on wake up and then 2 around mid afternoon. Then sunday 4mg in the AM. After that. Probably 4mg for a week or two. After that I may try to drop to 2 and keep reducing. I really want this to be a DETOX only. I will be working with a counselor during all of this to work through what led me down this dark road and won't quit sub until it is appropriate.

By the way. It is Mark.. haha.

Thank you all for your encouragement, information and support. I will check in manana for an update.


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Hi Mark ( :oops: )

I'm so happy you finally got started! Now you can focus on your recovery without going through the awful pain of WD!

Just so you know, the legs and back may be lingering WD effects. I totally understand you not wanting to go higher than 4mg. If you can push through, you should normalize and feel better in a few days. But, if you want to feel your best you may want to go up to maybe 6mg for a couple days, just to let your receptors get good an full before dropping.

I'm so happy you got started! Remember, this is your journey...you have to make it work for you, however you feel is best.

Good luck today!

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Ditto to what Qhorse said, Mark! :D

BTW, you said you would check in manana for an update....what the heck is a manana? lol

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Hi Mark


Yeah! I am glad you made the choice of recovery! I feel similar to you in that i want to use sub as a detox tool. It may be 3 months or 3 years...but i am going to do what i feel is right for me.

I had the leg pain for a few days..doc said it was w/d & would ease up by the weekend..seems better so hang in there.

Please post an update....You are doing all the right things Mark, sub, the counselor & your will to be free...I have a really good feeling about you!

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Romeo....Menana is spanish for morning. It needs the accent mark over the first n, but I don't know how to do that on my keyboard!

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mañana means "tomorrow", la mañana means morning :)

(I should add that every dope dealer in CA is Mexican. So the upside is that you learn Spanish right quick :lol: )


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Tiny, how do you put the accent on the words from a keyboard? I've always wondered how people get that on there!

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mañana, just like that, it's easy!

I may not have known what mañana meant, but I know how to put the accent thing on! :D

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qhorsegal2 wrote:
Tiny, how do you put the accent on the words from a keyboard? I've always wondered how people get that on there!


I'm on my iPhone, it autocorrects the word with the accent. lol


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Hello all. I lasted about 8 days on sub back in September. Then fell to my cravings. I thought it would be just for a weekend. But that weekend turned in to three months. I screwed up. I am ready together back on the sobriety horse and stay there.

For folks with multiple inductions. Did you find your induction experiences to be the same for the most part? For instance if my drug of abuse is the same will I face roughly the same timeline and withdrawal experience that I went through the first time? Any advice for a second and hopefully final go at this would be appreciated.


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