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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:59 pm 
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As most of you know I have recently relocated to Charlotte, NC. I am very glad to be here because I am now close to my children. I have been on the sub program now for just a little over a year. I take 8mg of subutex daily and things are great..life is good....job...my kids...still not in a relationship yet...but no rush. I really struggled to find a new sub doctor. I must have talked to 20 doctors and things ranged from expensive meet and greets to $1500 cash for the first month to "I only have my patients take it for two weeks".

Well I finally found one that actually is only 2 miles away....she is a family doctor as well and takes my insurance. I spoke at length with her nurse and she called me back after speaking with the doctor and she said the doctor would take me on as a sub patient.........however what a waiting list. She can't see me until June 29th. Well I obviously panicked as my current sub doc always made me come in monthly, do a UA and then write a script. I met with him April 14th for the last time. I told him of the move and shared with him that I would not be able to see new Doc until June 29th.....He said I will help you...so he wrote me my monthly script and then this week I called him on Tues (per his instructions) for a refill........He said no problem but based on the rules he could only write for 30 8mg subutex and that I would have to make that last until my appointment. I assured him I could do that and picked up my script Tues night.......

Yesterday my boss called and said we have to go to a mandatory conference in Seattle..........ok..... at the end of June..What???? I got my flight itenerary today and I fly out at 9:17 am Tues June 29th............my appointment is at 9 am that morning. I callled the doctor's office and was only able to speak with a receptionist who informed me that June 29th is the only day I can get in that she is now taking appointments into August.

What do I do...........If I miss this appointment I am screwed...there is no way I can go to a 4 day conference in W/D...

I was thinking of writing a letter to the doctor but I don't want to come off desperate or drug seeking......but I am scared.....really scared. I am not sure what to do. I feel if I call my old doctor he may become suspicious.......it's amazing we pull so much shit in addiction with doctor's and pharmacist........that when things are what they are we look even worse...

I am looking for some thoughts here on what you think I should do...........Is the letter thing too desperate?? I already got my list out again and started calling more doctor's across th state with no luck. I felt such relief when it worked out for me to move here and I found a doc and thought things will be fine....just like they were. I know I have some time 28 days or so but I have to have some sense of resolve soon so I can have peace.......I honestly feel like an addict because suddenly I am worried about my sub.........when the reality is I am so damn afraid to go through withdrawls......any help is appreciated.......

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Hi Jim! Here are my thoughts....

I think you should write the letter. Is there any way you can get documentation of your trip to include with the letter or in case your old sub doc wants to see it if you have to call him?

Keep calling around....you never know what or who you may find, or someone who will have a cancellation, so don't give up.

I don't know if you read my thread from the other week about having to cut down to 4mgs and then 2mgs in a matter of days due to not having the money to refill my subs in time...well. I really did OK (not great, but NOT bad either) on the 4mgs......so if all else fails......

But, have faith. Something will work out.... KUP

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Oh, and where did you move to NC from? Any chance you are close enough to maybe take another trip to your old doc if you absolutely have to?????

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It would be a 12 hour car ride to get there............have not taken that option off the list........really.


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You're right, this situation really sucks! I would be panicky too - I think that's normal.

Ok, you called the new doc - did you ask to get on a cancellation list? If the new doc won't budge, I'd try to go back to the old doctor and calmly explain the situation. Is it absolutely necessary that you take this trip? What about just changing the time of the flight? Just tell them you have an appt with a specialist that you've had for months and can't change it. That you'll be on the trip, but will fly out a couple hours later.

I don't know, ReRaise, that's the best I can come up with. I'm sorry I can't give you better solutions. I can see why you're scared. And being scared like this, over a medication, reminds us of active addiction, which probably is part of what's making you panic. I really hope you are able to find a solution to this.

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Hat has a great idea! See is you can just change the time of your flight. Let them know its a super important dr's appt you can not miss. Will that work? It's worth a shot right?

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already did the flight switch once......this flight is the only one that gets me there as they had me flying out earlier and I already requested a change and 9:17 am was the best they could do....I hate when Corporate makes our flight arrangements.........I have been asked to be on the cancellation list and have even tried to think of how to get out of this.......right now it is time to keep hitting my knees to say my prayers.....I think I am going to do a practice letter and see if I can make it seem that I am more concerned with my recovery and progress and not about getting a script from someone who has never met me and only knows I am addicted to opiates and am an alcoholic(4 yrs now......not a drop). If I could get in to see her from what I have read about her she would be a good fit......she has some really good reviews.......anyway thanks for the ideas....I should have added that in my first post........

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Hi ReRaise,
It sounds like you've done everything that I would've suggested so I can't add much. I did want to congratulate on 4 years of Sobriety that's Awesome... I know how hard that can be.... I am also an Alcoholic in Recovery. I will be Sober a year on 6-08-2010...!!! As far as your Suboxone Dilemma goes I think your best bet is your "Old Dr. Would he write you enough to hold you over??? You should be able to prove your situation with you Airline Confirmation ??? The only other thing I can think of is try to get the two Dr.s offices talking with each other. That way maybe between the two of them they could get the Rx written??? Sounds like your between a Rock & a hard place...... Best of luck and please keep us posted on your progress...

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Jim,

I would write the letter and I would also call your old doc, inform him of the situation and ask him if he has any suggestions for you. Can your new doctor's office change an appt. around? Couldn't they call another patient and switch days? I mean come on! So sorry. What a royal pain in the butt. Keep us posted on what happens.

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Get every bit of documentation possible before pleading your case so they know you aren't just feeding them a line of BS.

Good luck.


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I'm really sorry you're in such a tough spot. Who would have thought this could happen? After all your effort with getting your doctors and prescription lined out....now this! I can't think of anything else that you haven't already done or that hasn't already been suggested by the others. If it were me, I'd probably go ahead and write the letter you were thinking about writing to the new doctor in hopes that she will have mercy on you and front you the Rx. In my experience, that is seldom done, but not a complete impossibility. I think you'll have a better chance of that happening if she has your records from your former Sub doc (and I think you said you did have your records sent to her.) I would suggest pleading your case with the former doctor first, but it sounds like he already may feel that he has gone above and beyond by extending your script when you moved. However, that is still something you may want to consider. And I agree with you in thinking that if you have to....make the 12 hour drive and see him again until you can get rescheduled with the new doctor.
I know you're on the cancellation list and that's great. The other thing you might do is call the office a couple of times every week to inquire about any appointment times that might have opened up. Maybe you can kind of strike up a good rapport with one of the receptionists if you haven't already, letting her know the importance of your situation and how willing you are to make arrangements to come in even on short notice. I'm actually working on getting one of my daughters in with a specialist who books several months out, and when I told the receptionist that I could be there within a one-hour notice, she told me that makes a big difference and she would note it by my name, as often times people will cancel only an hour or two prior to their appointment time.
I know I haven't given you much here.....wish I had more. I understand your concerns completely. I've got to believe that this will work out for you. You've had so much to overcome and have made such positive strides....I just can't think that this won't some how work out. Let us know.


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Jim,

I know of a doctor in CLT that, while he isn't the best, is pretty easy to deal with and is currently accepting patients. Perhaps you could receive your prescription from him for the first month or two, go on your trip, and then stay on the waiting list for your preferred physician. Once your "newest" doctor can see you, you'd just transfer over. Obviously if you were wanting to start a taper or some modification to your treatment you'd probably have to wait, but at least you wouldn't be driving 12hrs for your script.

If you are interested in his contact info, please PM me.


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One other thought. Most docs have you come in for a large block of time for your first visit, which is why the appointments are so hard to get. When I was looking for a new sub doc, I convinced them to just give me a regular 15min. appt. because I was already on sub - just to meet the doc, etc. They said that if I decided to go with him I'd still have to come in for the long appt. Maybe you can get a 15 min. appointment with your new doc before the trip just to tide you over, and still agree to do all the introductory stuff later. Hope it works out.
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Reraise: That's a tough situation to be in. I am sorry that you have to go through this.

I think the angle I would be working is figuring out a way to get the doctor that is CURRENTLY prescribing for you to prescribe again, and then working on a way to fill (and get your hands on) that prescription. Then deal with the rest later.

Man, this is one of my fears about being on this medication. What happens when you can't fill the prescription or if/when your doctor retires or goes on vacation and forgets all about you, or quits, or whatever.

It's totally unfair that you have to deal with this kind of stuff. Once you're on a medication like this, there should be some kind of "fail safe" system that protects people who are not abusing it or manipulating the system.


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Hey Jim, just wondering how things are going with this? Any luck?

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Dee was able to PM me the name of a doctor and I spoke with them. Although I do not anticipate using him as my long term doc due to several factors....he is able to get me in on the 22nd. I will make this appointment if my new doc doesn't have a cancellation. This doc will get me through thanks to someone on the forum. Thanks for asking.

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Great, I'm glad everything worked out ok for you!

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Oh I'm so happy things worked out for ya ReRaise :)
I did want to say that I totally know how you felt about the doctor thinking you were trying to pull something. I was so afraid of having my doctor thinking I was doing something wrong that I simply wouldn't even consider talking to him if something went wrong. I have over time however found him to be a really reasonable guy when something happens. My parent's insurance dropped me at the beginning of this year and money was tight so I really had no idea what I was going to do to pay for my Suboxone. I called my Sub doc explained everything and they were great! They changed my script to generic subutex so I could afford the scripts and even reduced the price of my appointments to only $50 per visit! I think I just had so much shame built up from my using years I didn't think a doctor would ever think I was capable of telling the truth lol. It's just helped me alot knowing that now if something happens I can work with my doctor to find a solution and I really feel like he's on my side, he really wasn't standing by and waiting for me to screw up something!

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