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 Post subject: sniff subutex
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:03 pm 
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hello everyone..
am not from usa so if my english suck am sorry traing my best..

i would like to know if there is any one here that used totake the subutex or sbuxon by sniff it?
and if any one know someone that usedto snnifing it and stop take it..

rait now i am whit person that take subutex tro the nose and he his now didnt take abot 20 huors..
and my gess is that its only the beging of the whitdre
and i would like to know do you have advice for me what can i do or give him that can help him to go trow 80 huors with out subutex..

bay the way he sniffing it everyday and its only 1 pill of 8 mg in a mount.

if someone didnt understend what i mean i would be happy that you ask me qetion


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I used to snort subutex as my beginner opiate. one pill between me and my friend started a huge addiction for the both of us. from which we graduated to shooting any opiate we could find.

anyways there's no magic way to stop doing drugs. if he's snorting a whole pill to get high his w/ds shouldn't be too bad. the only two way to get off a drug as you know are 1. cold turkey and 2. ween down. i'm sorry, but you won't find any answers you didn't already know here.


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Hi neta, welcome,

I personally have sniffed subutex a long time ago, but not suboxone.

I guess I'm missing your question. He needs to stay off subutex for 80 hours? Completely clean, detoxing off for good? Or has a few days where he can't take it? Sniffing or not, it's going to have almost the same effect in the long run.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:41 pm 
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Can I ask why he is trying to stay off for 80 hours? Unfortunately there is nothing you can do/give him to make it any easier. Maybe you can use this as a wake up call for him to realize that he needs help. The withdrawal sucks, and there's no way to cheat your way through it. I would try to encourage him to get to a doctor and get started on a real treatment plan so he can get his addiction under control and have a chance at sobriety. I saw that you said he was "only" taking 8mg per day. That is a pretty hefty dose to come off of cold turkey. This medication is VERY strong. I wish you the best of luck but if he is only 20 hours out and already feeling the withdrawal I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. This medicine stays in your system for a long time, really he shouldn't be feeling any withdrawal yet only 20 hours out.


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Sorry, I should have mentioned if he is having issues with diarrhea you can get him some immodium. It works pretty well for stomach issues when you are detoxing from opiates.


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 Post subject: maybe this will help
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:14 pm 
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i will expline
he wased to take something like 9 pill of 8 mg each in 1 week.
all the time sniff it never like it should be.
and after a long long time in a sireis war he got to take 1 pill of 8 mg i one mount.
and he has bein traing for so long to stop taking it for good. but he cant go for more then a few hours whit out it. after a few hours he start to have Withdrawal symptoms.
so now he disaided anaig to try stop it in one time and to do to Withdrawal whit out enything..
so actually my qestion is there is something that he can take or somthing to do?
and i would like to know if you gone trow whit it and stop avethely what was the way?

i hope that this will make it more clear and if still not i am raedy to explein again
ty any how
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:26 pm 
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o.k sorry if i expline my self in the worng way
he alredy one time was doing that keind of withdrawal.. and he didnt take it for something like 5 days and he want trow all the simtoms of withdrawal and after abut 2 weeks that he didnt tounch sub he took some ( i bet you all know the feeling that you thike that one more time it's o.k)
so i figer that withdrawal smptoms it about 80 or 120 hours..
fix me if am worng
and i know that there is a long pross after it but he is a very strong person and he have den it befor an the doses was biger am talkin abot some like 9 or 12 pill in one week and he stop it all in one time. and it only 1 piil in a mount.. but it's hearder for him we dont know way...


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Ok, so he has gotten himself down to 1 8mg tablet a week. And he IS trying to stop for good, not just for 80 hours? at makes it a little more clear, thank you for explaining. Unfortunately the answer is still pretty much the same. Lots of people here have been able to stop taking the suboxone, same drug that's in subutex. But it is not easy. He is going to have to want sobriety bad enough that he is willing to go through the withdrawal. The worst of it should be over in a couple weeks. But if he can't go more than a few hours without caving then I don't think he is ready. He is going to have to be ready to battle for his sobriety. If he is doing it because someone else wants him to it's not going to stick. He really has to want it. I wish you guys the best of luck.

By the way, don't worry about your english skills. Your writing is good enough that we can pick up on what you mean. No worries. :D


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im a girl first thing but its o.k
and am talking about subutex becuse here in israel it's very rer to see suboxone..
i wonder what can i do to get him to not think abut it.. i mean trow the withdrawal? you know pepole told me that a person that going trow somthing like this need a distraction
do you have some idaea for me?
and ofcores we cant leave the house.........


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He can break the pill into several pieces and take it the right way, under his tongue and let it set for 5 minutes, but only if he has too. That is if he still has the one pill.

Warm baths or showers, medicine for stomach upset, drink lots of fluids and do anything to help him not think about it. He can take ibuprofen to tylenol but not too much.

Try to keep him doing something that keeps him busy. Is this what you were looking for?

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Hi neta,

I pm'd you back. You've gotten some great advice here. Hopefully it'll help!

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neta,

Things he can do:

listening to music that he likes will be soothing and will keep his mind busy

hot bath or showers will ease the body aches/ chills

make him go for walks to tire himself out and sunshine (warmth) is good for mind & body

make sure he eats & drinks fluids

any meds like ibuprofen or sleeping meds can helps a bit

sex or masturbation can help. If he likes porn, let him watch it. Seriously.


** Most of these have been said already but I wanted to put it in a list. At this point it's just about survival and getting through each hour. The things listed above will help but he will still be miserable. Just encourage him to think positively and keep on going. It will get better.


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Hi Neta,

I just went back and read my response to you from yesterday and I feel like I need to apologize. I completely misunderstood (through no-fault of your own) what you were trying to explain and I'm afraid my response may have been a little snippy. I am sorry if I didn't seem very supportive. :oops:

I saw your other thread asking for responses from people who have successfully quit after sniffing subutex for a long period of time. I just wanted to encourage you to read the posts here that have been written by those who have quit even if they weren't sniffing it. I really don't think there is much difference as far as it's effect on the body or the addiction and detox process. The medication is absorbed through mucus membranes, whether that is in the nose or under the tongue. Each persons detox and withdrawal are very individual but there are ALOT of similarities and things that all of us who are trying to quit taking this medicine go through. I don't think the route he chose to ingest it is going to make much difference. Tiny gave you a really good response above, if he is determined to make it he will. Let him read some of the threads here by people who are going through it now, maybe that will encourage him a little to see that he is not alone in his struggle.

Oh, and I understood you were a woman. When I was saying he/him it was in reference to your friend.


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This may help people understand better..

By mount- she means month. Which changes a lot.

Neta- you're doing great! Don't worry about it! English is my "second" language, too. I've been there, done that a long time ago!! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:43 pm 
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Thank you all again..
It's o.k but your first respond. I understend the my English can be confusing..
Well I can tall you that by now nothing yet as change.. The only thing that is the long as the time goes by that's how Mach he wents to do the rehab. But we still haven't find the way. We sew some video on YouTube of people how as be true suboxone rehab and its very inkreg. May be if some here know more Pepole that video them self day-by-day in subutex rehab and made it true that we can see tall me where I can see Staff like this. it will be very helpfull.
And again thank you all
I still have thing or two o Lauren in English but as long as you understend me it ok


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Hi Neta,

Don't give up hope. This is a very hard addiction to kick, but it is possible. I can't tell you how many failed attempts to get off the pain pills I had before one finally stuck. Then I struggled through learning to take the suboxone responsibly, now I'm tapering...But eventually something will change and your friend will make it. Just keep encouraging him without beating him up too bad if he slips. It sounds like you are doing exactly what he needs, being there for him.

I'm glad you updated us! I don't have any links to the information you requested but I bet eventually someone will see this and post something for you.


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