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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:13 am 
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I have used about 10 bags of H a day for the last 3 year, did 6 months in a methadone program but realized that all it did was switch one habit for another. I have lots of friends that swear that subs are a miracle but yet all of them have used subs for 6 months or more some a few years. I don't get the logic behind this way of treatment. Having lots of experience with substance abuse problems I made a plan and will post my sub usage and progress on this post. The idea is to get off subs in a month or less.

Day one. Took 2mg in the morning still felt bad took 2mg and felt like shit all day I took my dose way to early.

Day two. Did 2 bags of H in the morning felt great all day.

Day three. Woke up felt like crap counted 24 hours from last H use did 2mg sub at 6 AM. All symptoms gone. ( Its true with sub is less is more ) it is now 3PM still feel fine.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:57 am 
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hi travka,

welcome to the forum.

I am glad you decided to take subs to treat your addition. Once you get leveled out on the right dose for you, then you can decide whether you really need a long term stint on subs or would like to taper off.

Subs are more than just taking one addiction for another. you are leveling out the up and down of full agonist like heroin and getting a steady dose of buprenorphine in your body.

once you steady out on subs, then i would go to see an addiction counselors before you try to taper on your own. There is no rush to get off subs

Most people on this forum have decided to stay on them long term because they see their lives going back to normal. they are successful at their jobs again and family life. So like me we decide to stay on them long term because they are working to get us into some sort of normalcy again.

If you do decide to taper off, you must have a plan, whether it is go to meetings or a counselor and pratice complete abstinence from drugs / alcohol.

doing it on your own almost NEVER works. trust me i have tried time and time again.

There are many great tapering schedules on this forum if you do decide to get off of them. and we will support you along the way.

My advice if you are so new at being off H. Please give subs a change to work and try to work on being sober like going to an addiction counselor or a recovery meeting.

Good luck to you!


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