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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:18 am 
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My appt is tmrw to start suboxen. I have been on zanax for over 10yrs. my dr said its fine to take b/c I have been on it for so long & have read the same thing. l am extremely nervous about tmrw.
does anyone have any advise?


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Hi SW,

The only advice I can give is to tell you to just do what the doctor asks. Be in moderate withdrawal and the induction should go smoothly.

You will feel much better after you get used to taking Suboxone. Hopefully, it will be an easy transition, just as it was for a lot of us. Focus on the positive stuff and do find some recovery place.

Let us know how it goes. Congrats on almost getting your life back in order.

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Hello Snow White, which Doctor is telling you that it is OK to take Suboxone and Xanax? Some Suboxone providers will never allow both, a few in certain situations. If they are not the same doctor then the xanax prescriber's opinion is worth a bucket of spit, unless they will also prescribe the suboxone.
Dr. J has addressed the topic of benzos on his blog and Twin Cities Hardcore has a nice discussion going on in a current thread.
All providers that are writing for scheduled medications are supposed to be checking the online state prescription monitoring program to assure themselves what the patient has been getting and prescribed by whom. I'll give more credence to a respected psychiatrist that I know than the GP that has a rep for poor management or from a suspected pill mill. I would also request a release of information to discuss with other providers so we are assured who is managing what.
Just another thought, if the Xanax provider is sure it is OK ask him/her to get their waiver and provide both. PAX


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rule62 wrote:
Hi SW,

The only advice I can give is to tell you to just do what the doctor asks. Be in moderate withdrawal and the induction should go smoothly.

You will feel much better after you get used to taking Suboxone. Hopefully, it will be an easy transition, just as it was for a lot of us. Focus on the positive stuff and do find some recovery place.

Let us know how it goes. Congrats on almost getting your life back in order.

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thanx Rule62,
I don't know y but I felt better yesterday than I do today. am I doing something wrong? or is it normal to feel worse b/c now I am really w/d from the percocets I was taking ? my dr is a neurologist who has been treating me for my neck and migraines for almost 6yrs. she is a very caring dr and i trust her 100%,and i have a very hard time trusting many dr's. problem is, i amonly her 4th patient she has prescribed suboxen to. she definitely took her time w/ me, as i was in her ofc for almost 4hrs. it took me over 16hrs from my last perc to start to go into slight withdrawal. my problem is am i on the correct dosage to start with? i thought i wasn't suppose to feel w/d symptoms once i started the suboxen. she thinks on should be on 12-16 mg a day but 2day i had to take 4 4mg films. and i still feel very anxious and edgy. i kept myself busy all day but i still don't feel right. am i suppose to spit out all my saliva once the film dissolves? i did b.c i read on here, if u swallow, u can get head/stomach aches. but i feel like maybe i spit the medicine out??
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docm2 wrote:
Hello Snow White, which Doctor is telling you that it is OK to take Suboxone and Xanax? Some Suboxone providers will never allow both, a few in certain situations. If they are not the same doctor then the xanax prescriber's opinion is worth a bucket of spit, unless they will also prescribe the suboxone.
Dr. J has addressed the topic of benzos on his blog and Twin Cities Hardcore has a nice discussion going on in a current thread.
All providers that are writing for scheduled medications are supposed to be checking the online state prescription monitoring program to assure themselves what the patient has been getting and prescribed by whom. I'll give more credence to a respected psychiatrist that I know than the GP that has a rep for poor management or from a suspected pill mill. I would also request a release of information to discuss with other providers so we are assured who is managing what.
Just another thought, if the Xanax provider is sure it is OK ask him/her to get their waiver and provide both. PAX


hi docm2,
my dr is my neurologist, I have been in her care for over 5yrs now. although she was not the dr who prescribed me zanax, my PCP did about 9yrs ago, she has been prescribing me the zanax since I became her patients for treatment of my neck and for migraines. she is definitely not a "pill mill dr". she is one of the very few dr's I have ever trusted. she actually cares about her patients and is not in it for the money. i get all my medications from her. i will definitely read dr.j's blog and twin cities thread, if i can find it. im still trying to navigate my way around here.
thank u for responding :)


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My sub doc said I cannot take xanax with suboxone but said to go ahead and finish my xanax prescription this month then ask my pcp to change it to klonopin ...he says it is safer


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oxyisthedevil wrote:
My sub doc said I cannot take xanax with suboxone but said to go ahead and finish my xanax prescription this month then ask my pcp to change it to klonopin ...he says it is safer


wow, my dr said its fine to continue with the zanax bc I have been on it for so many years. I definitely don't like mixing it w/ the subs. maybe I should tell my dr to switch me to klonopin

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A question for your SW. Did you feel like your dose of Xanax was stronger after being on Suboxone?

I've taken it while on Sub and it felt a lot stronger than normal. I'm just wondering if anyone else experienced that same feeling.

If you think you can do w/o the Xanax, try very hard to get off of it. Do you take it daily or just when needed? It is meant to be taken occasionally, not daily.

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Hi there, I'm on the subuxone program and only started this week.

Regarding your Xanax usage, I've had experience with alprazolam dating back a quite a number of years but the longest I ever took it was nightly over the course of 3 weeks (say 3or 4mg over 3 weeks). I've vowed never to touch Xanax again as it is a hellish come-down the first 3 or 4 days is lots of anxiety and depression. Yeah your Dr wants you to remain on it because it can be very damaging and difficult to taper off.

I saw a you tube video by a specialist alprazolam Psych and he stated that the drug should only be used 'once a blue moon' like for a long haul flight. But I and many people find the drug very addictive so when I was able to obtain alprazolam OTC in Thailand that's when I ran into trouble with it (where I live it's very restricted).

I've had good results dosing a non addictive prescription drug called Gabapentin. Coming off alprazolam Xanies abruptly will definitely lower the seizure threshold and Neurontin (gabapentin) acts as a great shield against seizures body shakes etc. I'm no Dr so please talk to a medical expert like your neurologist about this.

If was me using alprazolam for that length of time I would be switching to a longer acting benzo like Valium (diazepam) which I think would be safer. Then you could slowly reduce the Valium and introduce Neurontin perhaps running both concurrently. Talk to your quack about where suboxone may fit in to this schedule but by taking Valium and gabapentin you would be avoiding a lot of body shakes, not to mention depression and anxiety. The Benzo drugs can be very nasty like alcohol if you abruptly stop ct.


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The best advice would be ask a professional about it. We're no Drs but if you need support, we're here just for you all the way. So hang in there :)

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My fathers is a doctor and he usually switches those that are on xanax to clonazepam (klonopin) like everyone here is saying. Supposed to be much safer.


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