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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:44 pm 
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Hi all! I'm having a serious issue with generic buprenorphine. Last week I started feeling down, no energy, then it only got worse. Weak legs, stuffed up, all the classic symptoms of withdrawal. I thought maybe I'm coming down with something, but to rule it out I talked to my pharmacist and ordered ten pills, the symptoms disappeared. But even the new ones don't feel quite right. I've been talking these for awhile and never any issues. I read on the internet that others are having a problem with this brand as well. Anyone here having any problems?

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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
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When my doctor switched me from the very expensive Suboxone brand films to the generic bupe, to save me money because I'm uninsured, I had exactly the same issues with this brand. I even gave it a few days to make sure it was withdrawal symptoms I was feeling, after going up to sixteen mgs, my symptoms disappeared, thank goodness, so I knew it was withdrawal. I had gotten myself stable on twelve mgs a day on the films, but since starting with the roxane bupe, I've had to up my dose to 16mgs a day to stop those symptoms. so your definitely not alone,I don't know what it is, but they just don't seem to work as well as the films did for me, but all in all, I'm still happy to be saving the money I'm saving compared to buying brand name Suboxone. I hope you get things sorted out and feel better soon.


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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
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I'm so glad you responded lizzieshug. Its not all the time, maybe a bad batch.that's terrible that you had to go up, your doctor didn't mind? My insurance starts on the first, I'm wondering if the strips are covered this is rediculous. What if someone ran out early due to taking more? I'm glad my pharmacist filled it cuz I was early

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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
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I am actually prescribed 24mgs, but my doctor knew that I'd been trying to take less than that and that I had lowered my dose some on my own, and said he'd continue to rx 24 mgs another month or two so that in case something ever happened where I couldn't get to an appointment, or if he had to reschedule, bad weather, illness, etc, I would have some extra subs for a couple days. I'm truly blessed with a good caring doctor. I live over two hours away from my doctors office, and we've had some hellish snow storms this year, that could've prevented me from getting to an appointment, luckily that didn't happen, and I made my appts, but it was comforting to know that I had my medication in case of emergency. this is only my second month on the generic bupe, but it took a little over a week to adjust to the medicine, and now I'm fine at sixteen. I was a bit upset about going up at first, but now I'm ok with it since I've no future plans of going off bupe possibly ever. and of course I think I can make the drop back down to 12mgs after feeling comfortable another month or so on 16mgs, just don't wanna push myself too hard and feel unnecessarily uncomfortable.


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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:15 pm 
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Hi pugmommy,

another med you might want to give a shot at is Zubsolv, especially if the generic Subox aren't working for ya. I was switched over from the Suboxone films to Zubsolv because my insurance would NOT cover the films. However when I did switch over , I could not tell the difference.


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Hi Rudy! I was wondering about those

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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
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I take the Roxane generic buprenorphine and have never had a single issue with it. In fact I really like it cause it seems to break down easily. If you switched from the films maybe you just aren't getting as good absorption as you were. Google optimizing absorption of buprenorphine and read dr Junigs blog about getting the most out of your dose.

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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:41 pm 
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hey squeaky, I'm sure absorption was the problem. I have dentures, so part of the problem with crushing the tabs with my front teeth and then painting my mouth was less surface area to paint, not covered by denture so most of the medicine got stuck on the denture and not the few exposed areas of my mouth. I eventually had to learn a new way by letting the tabs partially dissolve under my tongue sans dentures, and then painting that dissolved solution around my mouth, however I guess since I was changing over from the films, which have excellent absorption, to tablets that don't dissolve or absorb as well. I did require 16mgs of the tabs to maintain me for the full dosing interval. I do this while getting ready for work each morning, hair, make up etc, before finishing off my look with teeth, lol!:-D


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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:43 am 
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lizzieshug2013 wrote:
I am actually prescribed 24mgs, but my doctor knew that I'd been trying to take less than that and that I had lowered my dose some on my own, and said he'd continue to rx 24 mgs another month or two so that in case something ever happened where I couldn't get to an appointment, or if he had to reschedule, bad weather, illness, etc, I would have some extra subs for a couple days. I'm truly blessed with a good caring doctor. I live over two hours away from my doctors office, and we've had some hellish snow storms this year, that could've prevented me from getting to an appointment, luckily that didn't happen, and I made my appts, but it was comforting to know that I had my medication in case of emergency. this is only my second month on the generic bupe, but it took a little over a week to adjust to the medicine, and now I'm fine at sixteen. I was a bit upset about going up at first, but now I'm ok with it since I've no future plans of going off bupe possibly ever. and of course I think I can make the drop back down to 12mgs after feeling comfortable another month or so on 16mgs, just don't wanna push myself too hard and feel unnecessarily uncomfortable.



You sound a bit like me...except with a few differences in the amounts I take..
I'm still on the film (I know how lucky I am to have insurance that covers it, because for 2 1/2 years -- from 2008 until 2010 -- I was paying out-of-pocket for my dr visit and the total cost for Suboxone PILL form. The pills were around $6.90 each, and that was at Fred's pharmacy..and I was rx'd 3 per day.) Back then, I couldn't control myself like I do now, and thought I really needed all 24mg of Sub per day ...and I actually ran out a couple of times back then, and I made myself feel like I was in withdrawals from the Sub. It was purely mental, my brain playing tricks...but I just knew if I didn't get my meds and did without, I would feel withdrawals. Luckily, the pharmacist at Fred's in the small town I live in was a great guy, and usually I would just get 6 - 10 pills at a time from my script of 90/month. He allowed me to do this for a VERY long time.

Now, I'm at a different point in my treatment/recovery....whatever name fits it the best.
I have insurance, which still doesn't cover the dr visit...so that is paid by me in full..but I only go once every 2 months. As of the next visit, I'll be up to once every 3 months, since I've been a patient for a year, and not had any issues (ran out early, dirty piss test, etc).
Here's where I'm at with taking Suboxone: I get rx'd 24mg/daily..and they do a 28-day supply...so, since I had my dental work done back in January, I've been able to get out in the yard, and stay busy and not have the excruciating pain and agony associated with my teeth any longer...so my Suboxone use has gone down tremendously. I haven't told my doctor this...I still get 3x 8mg per day...but usually I don't take but 1 or 1.5 per day.
In fact, I just picked up my meds yesterday..or part of them..the pharmacy didn't have all of it so I only got 30. They still owe me 54 more...but, I really didn't need them...even though it is time. I still had around 21 from the previous month's prescription...which is 7 days worth @ 3 per day...
The pharmacy I use is ran by a friend I went to school with (she's married to a county cop)..and the other pharmacist/owner is married to a guy that works with my wife at Alabama Power. So ..it's not your big chain store...
when they give me my Subs, it's 2 sealed boxes, and 24 from an opened box. I'm trying to stock up and get a couple of sealed boxes put back to have on-hand...
It took me quite a while to get to this point, mentally and physically...with all the dental problems I've had the past couple of years, the Suboxone was the only thing I could use to help any at all with pain. I wouldn't recommend anyone start stockpiling just for the sake of doing it..if you need the meds, take them...but I think it's a good idea to have some put back for hard times. I wish I could've been doing it all along, just imagine how many I'd have in my safe!!
My neighbor told me yesterday that a guy we know is trying to sell 60 subs on the street...and I got totally pissed...I told him that people like that are the reason it's becoming a pain in the ass to get a doctor to even prescribe it, and that person is part of the problem...I don't care how many I got extra..I aint putting nothing on the street, for nobody. I've been taken advantage of in the past, by "friend" who knew I was on Suboxone...and I got hung out to dry. Now, I stick to myself, I don't let people know what I get, and I don't talk about having "extra" meds...so I don't get asked those questions.
I wish the guy who's trying to sell them would get caught...this shit needs to stop and people like him are causing lots of problems for us who take them legit.

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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:59 am 
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I'm with you Jonathon. the extra that I save is for me should I have an emergency only! or in the future have plenty for a taper. people who sell it p iss me off too, it's going to make it impossible for the rest of us-


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I take the generic roxanne bupe too and just wanted to add that I haven't had problems with it either so its gotta be some other factor I'm guessing. I will add one thing about roxanne subutex though just in case someone who is new to it doesn't already know but there is a small amount of grit leftover no matter how long you let it dissolve, it doesn't effect anything its just for awhile when I was new to it I always felt frustrated that there would be little grains left under my tongue and wonder if I wasted any. I mostly dose my subs now in liquid form like in the liquid taper thread and even when you dissolve it in water that grit still is there so I guess its just some insoluble filler that won't dissolve no matter what.


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 Post subject: Re: roxane buprenorphine
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:46 pm 
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Hi there,

I can say for certain that the Roxane generic is not consistent. I am now on strips, but I took Buprenorphine for several years, and once the generics came only the Teva brand was a sure thing. I had a terrible time trying to get my Doctor to believe me, I mean nobody is apt to believe a recovering addict that the meds are a problem.

I guess I'm relieved to see that I am not the only person who felt like I was in withdrawal when I got a dodgy batch of the medication. It was a real problem, enough so that I agreed to switch to strips. Now that I'm getting down below 2 mg a day I know I could never do that accurately with those tiny white pills.

Good luck and know you're not wrong, but you can't jut up your dose without your Doctor being in on it. They will not be sympathetic to your situation if you try and tell this tale when you have gone through 30 days of medication in 20 days or something.

Take care and thanks for sharing your experience.


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Hi Gingerpop and thanks for responding! It was terrible, then I would get a good one and feel over medicated. I emailed the company, they wanted me to fill out a four page form, don't have the time. Being an addict, my first thought was whoever is making these are keeping the buprenorphine for themselves! My eight mgs pills were actually like two mgs.

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