It is currently Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:03 pm



All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Our Sponsors





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:29 pm 
Offline
Average Poster
Average Poster

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:52 pm
Posts: 9
Hello Everyone!

I don't mean to startle anyone. However, I received a message from a Dr. on "naabt.com". He stated that he did not prescribe Subutex because it was being pulled from the market in the U.S. I didn't give it much thought, until I read a thread on another forum where another gentleman was told the same thing from his Doctor. I don't see how they can do this, for the simple fact that there are women that depend on Subutex to help them through their pregnancy. Any clarification, input, or insight on this matter will be duly appreciated.

Thanks Everybody!!!!



(moderator edit) Title changed to appropriately show the correct information -- the RECKITT-BENCKISER brand of Subutex is/was being pulled, however the generic brands made by Teva, Roxane, and there is/was a brand made by Qualitest that I can't verify it's existence still to this day, but it WAS an option --possibly in non-American countries it still is.

- Jonathan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:23 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:43 am
Posts: 1019
Location: Buffalo New York
This is very interesting and I don’t think this could be true!

I don’t doubt you read this or got an email from a DR about this I just don’t know if I believe it. Any ways you could copy and paste the thread and if you don’t mind email that you got so we can read it for ourselves? I just think this cannot be possible it would affect way to many people!

_________________
Yes these drugs saved our life's. But does that mean we have to give the rest of our life to these drugs?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:12 pm 
Offline
Average Poster
Average Poster

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:52 pm
Posts: 9
Let's hope that the reference with regard to Subutex is not true. Also, if it is found that it is in fact just an out right lie, I feel as though people should not utilize the treatment of "Debra Williams." Too much emphasis is being placed on the commercialism of Suboxone versus the financial help that one could receive by being prescribed a generic Subutex; thus saving lots of money. Doctors act like we are all herded cattle - we have to be treated the same way, led the same way, and fed the same garbage! That's not true and I hope that the day arrives when doctors will look at their patients with compassion and construct treatment options that will not only alleviate the individual's addiction constraints, but that will reflect the willingness and necessity to truly reach out and be 'here to help'. My .02.

09/19/2011 03:24 AM

Hello. I reviewed your application on naabt.org and would like to speak with you about your treatment. Please call Gary 256-603-1755 to discuss treatment. He will talk with you to help to determine if our treatment program is right for you. You may call seven days a week. Subutex is not prescribed. It is being taken off the market. Insurance may or may not reimburse so payment is expected at the time of the visit. I am not a Medicare provider and cannot see patients with this insurance. Please call for help. Dr. Williams

Debra Williams
4700 Whitesburg
Suite# 250
Huntsville, AL 35802
256-883-7031


Top
 Profile  
 
Our Sponsors
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:15 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:55 pm
Posts: 4933
Location: Leesburg, FL
I did a a quick search and only came up with the allegation on one site, so I, too, doubt it's true. But then anything's possible. Drugs do get yanked off the market with no thought whatsoever to the numbers of people taking them. They just did that with darvocet, did they not? And Vioxx some years ago? Time will tell.

_________________
-As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

-I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:19 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:55 pm
Posts: 4933
Location: Leesburg, FL
I just saw your second post. I'd say that's their way of dissuading people from asking for subutex, because that is one of those doctors who buys into the "subutex = higher abuse potential" theory. I mean, the FDA doesn't exactly go around telling individual doctors what meds are going to be pulled from the market ahead of time. That's what I think anyway.

_________________
-As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

-I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:09 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:43 am
Posts: 1019
Location: Buffalo New York
Hey C WV thanks for posting that email up that is very interesting and I don’t know what to take from it. I get this feeling after reading that she is just not a fan of subutext and does not want to support it nor see patients get it anymore. I would report her and send that email to the people that run that site and see what they have to say because if it is not true she should not try to discourage people from going on it.

_________________
Yes these drugs saved our life's. But does that mean we have to give the rest of our life to these drugs?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: subutex off market
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:39 pm 
Offline
New Poster
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:21 pm
Posts: 1
hello,
first to the point--the Brand name subutex was pulled from the market by the company that makes it as the diversion and misuse of the product was excessive. Besides being pregnant there is really no other reason to take subutex !!! period!!
The company program does arrange FREE subutex to pregnant females on suboxone for 8 months of pregnancy to come direct from the State.
The generic forms are still around--but again no reason to take this--you have to realize that the Naloxone in the Suboxone has such anti-craving and antidotel properties that your chance of recovery are cut by 2/3 by not using the Suboxone.
In many offices a patient asking for Subutex is a red flag of abuse and they will turn down the patient.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: subutex off market
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:47 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 am
Posts: 937
Location: Southeastern US (Alabama)
cardioref wrote:
hello,
first to the point--the Brand name subutex was pulled from the market by the company that makes it as the diversion and misuse of the product was excessive. Besides being pregnant there is really no other reason to take subutex !!! period!!
The company program does arrange FREE subutex to pregnant females on suboxone for 8 months of pregnancy to come direct from the State.
The generic forms are still around--but again no reason to take this--you have to realize that the Naloxone in the Suboxone has such anti-craving and antidotel properties that your chance of recovery are cut by 2/3 by not using the Suboxone.
In many offices a patient asking for Subutex is a red flag of abuse and they will turn down the patient.


Please, if you're going to say this stuff, offer some form of proof to back the claims.

There is PLENTY of reason for people to take this, as medicaid recently stopped covering the name-brand Suboxone after a period of 1 year of taking it..which I'm sure varies from state to state..but the only alternative for people is to be switched over to Subutex.

The naloxone in Suboxone has WHAT? Anti-craving and antidotel properties?

_________________
Adam Wayne P.
DOB: July 1, 1985
October 8, 2013

RIP little brother. Gone, but not forgotten.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:42 pm 
Offline
Super-Duper Poster
Super-Duper Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:57 pm
Posts: 311
cardioref wrote:
hello,
first to the point--the Brand name subutex was pulled from the market by the company that makes it as the diversion and misuse of the product was excessive. Besides being pregnant there is really no other reason to take subutex !!! period!!
The company program does arrange FREE subutex to pregnant females on suboxone for 8 months of pregnancy to come direct from the State.
The generic forms are still around--but again no reason to take this--you have to realize that the Naloxone in the Suboxone has such anti-craving and antidotel properties that your chance of recovery are cut by 2/3 by not using the Suboxone.
In many offices a patient asking for Subutex is a red flag of abuse and they will turn down the patient.




FUNNY....I JUST HAD MY DR. APPT. THURS. AND GOT MY REFILL FOR SUBUTEX....WITH NO PROBLEM AND NO WARNING OF IT NOT BEING THERE NEXT MONTH???? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS BEING PULLED FROM THE MARKET...

I HAVE 70 RIGHT NOW...MAKER..ROXANNE..
SLIPPER..... AND YES I AM YELLING....

_________________
"For evil to flourish, all that is needed is for good people to do nothing." >> Edmund Burke


Top
 Profile  
 
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:30 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 am
Posts: 937
Location: Southeastern US (Alabama)
Just more misinformation, with nothing...not a shred of evidence to back it.

_________________
Adam Wayne P.
DOB: July 1, 1985
October 8, 2013

RIP little brother. Gone, but not forgotten.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:51 pm 
Offline
6 Months or More
6 Months or More
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:53 am
Posts: 223
This thread formed in September of 2011, but I am pretty sure subutex was pulled from the market. When I say subutex, I mean the brand name which is made by the same company as suboxone. The generics are obviously still available as slipper posted. I thought I read a thread on here months ago about this same thing. It may have been from somewhere else though, but there was a link that I saved. Here it is:

http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/Subutex ... -16-11.pdf


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:58 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 am
Posts: 937
Location: Southeastern US (Alabama)
Why would they sell something that undermines their cash cow, Suboxone (and now, Suboxone film)??!!!

If they monopolize the market, then only have one option available for people, you just follow the money trail back to them and shake the tree until that snake falls out.

_________________
Adam Wayne P.
DOB: July 1, 1985
October 8, 2013

RIP little brother. Gone, but not forgotten.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:49 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:55 pm
Posts: 4933
Location: Leesburg, FL
It looks official. Here's a copy of a letter from RB stating they are discontinuing Subutex when they run out:

http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/Subutex ... -16-11.pdf

As someone above said, this is just the BRAND NAME SUBUTEX made by RB, not the generics like those made by Roxanne or Teva. We can speculate all we want, but I'd bet it has to do with money for them somehow, some way.

_________________
-As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

-I'm only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand.


Top
 Profile  
 
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:02 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:47 am
Posts: 937
Location: Southeastern US (Alabama)
hatmaker510 wrote:
It looks official. Here's a copy of a letter from RB stating they are discontinuing Subutex when they run out:

http://buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/Subutex ... -16-11.pdf

As someone above said, this is just the BRAND NAME SUBUTEX made by RB, not the generics like those made by Roxanne or Teva. We can speculate all we want, but I'd bet it has to do with money for them somehow, some way.


I'm going to adjust the title of this thread to appropriately show the correct information, as the current title suggests that the entire line of Subutex is being pulled and could cause some hysteria for people who just browse through

_________________
Adam Wayne P.
DOB: July 1, 1985
October 8, 2013

RIP little brother. Gone, but not forgotten.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:44 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:08 am
Posts: 1503
Good idea jonathanm!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:44 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:52 pm
Posts: 519
Location: CA
I agree, good idea. We don't want to cause a panic! :shock:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Our Sponsors
Suboxone Forum latest topics RSS feed Subscribe to the entire forum
 

 

 
Fond Du Lac Psychiatry
Dr. Jeffrey Junig, M.D., Ph.D.

  • Board Certified Psychiatrist
  • Asst Clinical Professor, Medical College of Wisconsin

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group