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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:12 am 
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Way to go!!!!

So what's your next drop? Are you going to 1.5 or 1?

You're an inspiration to many. Keep it up!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:20 pm 
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Day 18
Dose: 0mg (skipped)

1:00PM - Feeling: :?:
I'm definitely going to drop down to 1mg today, but I may try to skip today. I feel fine and have lots to do for travel so my mind will be busy. If I get sick feeling later in the day I will take the 1mg. I'm just so ready for this I'm going to start pushing a little harder.

I will post later, or tomorrrow if I don't get aroud to it. But I think I'll be fine. I'll probably wake tomorrow feeling real bad, but I'll have my dose to get me going. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:53 pm 
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Let us know how skipping a day works out for you. If you start feeling bad, you can always take your dose. Good luck!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:13 pm 
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Day 19
Dose: 1mg (Down from 2mg)

5:00PM - Feeling: :)
It was pretty tough skipping, yesterday. Although I did have a couple nerve pills to help out. It was more of a mental battle than my body hurting or anything. Once I took the nerve pills tho I was able to forget about it. :p

However, I did not feel well this morning. I was definitely "sub sick", but the smaller 1mg dose made me feel better. I wouldn't say it made me feel good, but definitely better. That's all I really need, anyways. I think the day skipped will help jump start my body into getting used to 1mg. I'll be staying at this dose until next Monday (7 days). If I get the urge to skip a day or two though I will, as I feel the more I do this the quicker my body, or brain, is leveling out.

Three more weeks until the jump!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:44 pm 
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You're doing very well. Skipping a day was a good idea. I did that and I think it helped me get lower quicker as well. And you're right, it is mostly a mental battle. The physical stuff is usually not bad but the obsession over wanting to feel 100% and knowing you can if you dose is tough.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:52 pm 
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Day 20
Dose: 1mg

12:00PM - Feeling: :!:
I realized just now that I'm at the point that I can't really taste the sub anymore when doing the dose of 1mg. I never really liked the taste of sub, until of course you don't have it lol. Like a poster said, it's like saying goodbye to a long friend.

Maybe I'll just go buy some oranges and eat the peels, cause that's what it tastes like anyways. :p

I really wish I could trade these for 2mg strips. Life for the next three weeks would be so much easier. I know pharmacies don't trade though, and I don't know anyone who gets 2mg strips.

2:00PM - Feeling: :?:
I'm a bit confused as to why I'm not sick yet. I mean, 20 days ago I was taking up to 24 mgs of this stuff for two years, and now I'm down to just 1mg daily. Shouldn't I be sick, or at least feeling bad? Why does the little tiny piece I use make all the pain go away, as the larger doses did? I know these are questions for a doctor who knows more about the drug, but it's becoming apparent sub doesn't work like other opiates.

Let me give an example. Say I'm addicted to another opiate, say oxycontin. If I've been taking this drug for 2 years at, say 5 pills a day. Then if I were to suddenly try to only do half a pill in one day I'd be sick.

Don't get me wrong, this is a pleasant suprise. Also, I know the sickness is coming. Although it will be coming later than expected. I just hope this taper will make it more tolerable than jumping from the 24mg. I've done this before so I'll be able to compare (I was very sick for almost 20 days, then I gave up). Hopefully the information will be useful to some people in this forum. Even if not, it's fun documenting all this. A few years down the road I can read this thread and smile (hopefully). :)

4:00PM - Feeling: :)
You guys will have to forgive me. It's quite the boring day at work. I was reading my post from earlier today and realised that I am, once again, looking too far into the future. I should be happy that I'm not sick instead of worrying about why I'm not. I guess that's a personal flaw I have, I worry about the future. So, from this point on, I'm going to try to stick to today only. We'll deal with problems as they arise day by day.

Thanks for the encouraging posts. It makes me happy people are reading this.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:55 pm 
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It'll all work out! I never took that much sub, but I HATE that taste!!! You're right, you do end up missing it though. Yay for 1mg! You're doing so awesome!


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LOL about the orange peels!!

Keep chugging along, man!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:45 pm 
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Good job RT! Keeping yourself focused on today is so hard sometimes but well worth the effort.

I'm keeping you in my thoughts.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:01 pm 
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Hey RT,
I look forward to reading your updates each day even though I haven't commented on them yet.

The wondering when and why your not feeling bad hits home for me. It's been over 2 months off sub for me and sometimes I still wonder if the wd is yet to come. Lol. It's gets better but it was hard to wrap my mind around not feeling shitty! I tapered to 0.1 and when I jumped I felt the same I had the week before.

Anyway, you know what your doing. Take it day by day and don't worry about the next because you will take it all in stride, and I'm sure you will continue to be pleasantly surprised.

Good luck! Your doing awesome :)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:44 am 
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Day 21
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10:30AM - Feeling: :)
Something suprising happened today. I woke up feeling good, and the first thought on my mind wasn't my sub dose. I went to work, and even then I was feeling good, almosmt as if someone had snuck into my hotel room and dosed me up.

I think this is quite a milestone, as for the past year or so this is always the first thing I think about when I wake up, and I always thought I couldn't function until I did the sub. I probably could've skipped today since I was feeling good, but I went ahead and put the tiny piece in my mouth. I know my body is still adjusting so I don't want to overdo it.

My "scheduled" doctor appointment is coming up, and I considered going and asking for the 2mg strips. But that would involve money, and explaining to the doc why I am quitting, why I didn't tell him, blah blah blah. I think over the weekend I'll buy some tweasers and small scisssors and see if I can cut them into 32 pieces. I think I have about 70 strips left at this point so I can afford to mess up a few :)

Something strange though, my foot hurts. Wouldn't it be weird if I was the first person to report the first major WD symptom as foot pain? I must've twisted it yesterday or something and not realised it. It feels like I stepped on it sideways, although it seems like I would remember doing that. Maybe I'll try a Flex later to see if it helps.

Thanks everyone for reading and your support. Hearing that people have been reading my posts and actually looking forward to them makes me feel warm and confirms the importance to the effort I am putting in. I really wish I had more to report regarding sub's tapering effect on my body, but it really has been minimal at this point. So, until then you get to read about minor happenings in my life, such as my foot hurting. :p

2:00PM - Feeling: :?:
I've been reading through some of the other posts in this forum, and it seems other people are really having troubles tapering. Some people are dropping by 25% or less and having serious physical withdrawal symptoms. I'm wondering why this isn't the case with me? I know sub acts differently in all our systems, but this just seems odd. I know a lot is mental and I'm mentally prepared to do this, maybe more so than others because of the reasons, but I'm talking physical symptoms, such as feeling down, muscle aches, etc. Could our mental state affect the seriousness of the physical affects?

I dunno. I'm just happy to be feeling the way I do. Every day (since Monday, I guess) I've had that little piece of sub in my hand getting ready to put it in my mouth, I think "Oh, this isn't going to do anything!", then 30 minutes later I feel great. By great I mean nearly as good as I did when I doing waaaay too much. I guess I'm lucky. My brain knows what is happening, I think, and it has accepted it. That and maybe the Lord is supporting me as well.

Those are the only explanations I can come up with.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:41 am 
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Day 22
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8:30AM - Feeling: :?
Well, today so far has been a little tougher. Woke up feeling mentally drained and physically wore out. I know this is due to the subs because I did nothing really physical draining yesterday. I just got to work and hurried to put the piece in my mouth, hoping it goes away quickly. We'll see.

9:30AM
Well the small dose seems to have helped already. Amazing how quickly those little things can kick in.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:19 pm 
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No post this day. (I was on vacation) :)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:21 pm 
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I decided today I am going to go ahead and drop down to .25 Monday. It's only two weeks until I am jumping so I want to make sure my body has very little in it. I will post a bit more later about this. For now I need to practice cutting the strip :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:13 pm 
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5:30PM - Feeling: :?
Hey everyone, just a quick update before I am travelling again. Today's my last 1mg dose, tomorrow I am starting the .25 mg dose instead of .5. We'll see how this treats me. I am stopping on the way to pick up some tweasers and small scissors.


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Sounds to good to be true....just saying. Good luck tho


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:34 am 
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^^ please don't listen to people like that. There are very few people on this forum who love to be "Debbie downers". They are obviously unhappy in their own recovery.

It can't be "too good to be true", when he's doing it. Back up, buddy.

Anyway congratulations on your drop tomorrow!!! You can do this!!! And remember, if going from 1mg to .25 is too quick for you, you can always go back up. Is it possible for you to do .5 Monday through Thursday and .25 until Monday? That may be a little less harsh?

Either way, we are rooting for you!!! You CAN do this!!! You ARE doing this!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:41 am 
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I am so happy for you! I go to an addiction specialist therapist. I asked him point blank if he has ever seen anyone get off sub & if so, was it awful. He told me he has had 30 people over the years taper off successfully (meaning no relapse) & 3 of those 30 had told him it was not bad at all, a little fatigue, some slight sadness they explained as leaving a lover :( They did slow tapers & he believes that's what helped. I hope you are one of those people who get off without many issues.

I enjoy your posts & should have posted sooner to you. I have been on sub 2 months & haven't felt comfortable posting yet.

Let us know how today goes....


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:27 pm 
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12:30PM - Feeling: :)
Too good to be true? I don't know why you think I'd lie in this forum. But hey, take away from this what you like. If you think I'm lying then that's not my problem. For me, personally, I agree. I does sound too good to be true and I have a hard time believing I haven't become sick yet. (I have had some muscle pains etc when I skipped the day, nothing major YET). Your senseless post has no effect, though, as I know people who really care know I'm not lying and have no reason to.

Moving on... let me clarify what I meant by my change of schedule. I'm going down to .25 mg this week, but I'm allowing myself to take that dose twice a day. Then, starting next week, I'll only be taking it once a day. This is getting my body accustomed to the lowest dose before making the jump in two weeks.

Last night it took about 15 minutes but I managed to cut a strip into 32 pieces. I had to use tweasers and could barely get it in my mouth. I had to see it in my mouth just to know it was there. But, so far today I feel fine. I expect this to get worse quickly but we'll see.

I'll post later this evening, although I don't expect many problems today knowing sub takes a couple days to lower in your system. Thanks everyone for your support. The encouragement is keeping me on track. It means more to me than you know. :)

5:00PM - Feeling: :?
Starting to feel a little down, mentally drained. My second dose though is at the hotel, and will have to wait another couples hours until I leave work. I wonder if it will even do anything? Glad I also brought along the Flex's cause I think I might need them tonight.


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I hope your evening has perked up! I hope that you felt your second dose kick in. Just be patient with yourself.

You are right! If Betterdayz thinks you are lying, that is his problem. Betterdayz either has an agenda in which tapering from sub HAS to be a nightmare or a troll trying to stir up trouble. Either way, he has to have a pathetic little life to create an account just to make one negative post!

Keep plugging along! You can do it!

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