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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:07 am 
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Hi all, I started suboxone 4 nights ago. I like it - which makes me think it must not be right. I am not sure if it is too strong or if what I am experiencing is normal - I am sleeping much less (do have more energy) but when I take my dose I feel like I am back on the nod again like when I would take too much oxy. Im slightly disoriented also and feel high. I have been abusing opiates for 3ish years (got up to 125mg of oxy a day) and have been addicted to benzos for 8 years. How will I know if I am taking too much suboxone? After the last few days I still have a cold which I expected but nothing bad other than constipation and the fact that I feel high - I am very confused.

Can someone tell me how they felt in the first week of their experience with suboxone - I understand we are all different but if anyone has any insight for me it would be greatly appreaciated.


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:13 pm 
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Hey SUPERMAN!!!!,
Welcome to this great forum.
You have begun a new part of your life this week, cngrats..ok so your 4 days in, feeling good, mostly .
Everything your going though is Normal. Yes you
feel a bit buzzed for awhile. A week or two, maybe louger..the thing is, and im not a dr, I read here that your up to 10 mgs today and yday. Seems a little high dose for a 125 mg habit. Maybe go back t 6 or even 4 mgs. It is important to stablize asap on a dose but it can take time Super.
throw in the benzo factor and ya, you may be I little lopey..
We try to find the dose that keeps the cravings away
and the WD 's away. I feel your dose is to high, imo.
Also, the lower the dose, the less side effects you
will have..
Educate yourself as much as possible here. Go overto Dr JJunigs Talkzone and read...watch his utube videos. Great source for the facts..

Keep posting, glad here here, and dont worry about messing up on a forum. Your doing fine..lol

maybe start your own Introduction thread too..

Have a great Sunday.....Razor....


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:54 pm 
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Thanks razor, it's Monday morning here and I don't think working is a good idea. I'm a space cadet! But am going to see my doc and ask to be reduced from 10 to 8. I'll just tell the doc how I feel and get his advice too. Thanks heaps for replying! The first thing I did this morning was check this page. Cheers and have a good Monday. Super :-)


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Everything you are experiencing is normal. The only thing is 10mg is pretty high for a 125mg habit. Try to lower your dose and experiment with different amounts. Also, look into ROA (route of administration) for your Suboxone and learn how to get the most out of your dose, once you find the method that works the best for you, a 4mg dose may feel like its 8mg since you got more bupe than normal... Bupe is very strong and suboxone is magical, just dont abuse it or stay on it too long. Its a narcotic and just like all of the good things in life come with consequences! Goodluck


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 9:53 pm 
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thanks kboxone, I was on this forum all day yesterday as I knew something was not right - that I shouldn't be feeling a high and definitely shouldn't be on the nod - but do you know if I will I still have energy and feel ok? Not that I really know what "ok" is anymore. I have my doc appointment soon and will definitely be keeping on joining in in this forum as a way of supporting my new start. I am quite scared but once you decide to start your life I guess it's normal to feel fairly apprehensive and cautious! I take the sub under the tounge - I thought that was the only way you could take it?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:39 pm 
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You may think this is an awesome drug. I'm on my 3rd attempt to get off this HELL drug. This drug is so bad that you need to go through being put out to get through the detox. I went off it now for 1 1/2 months with a Drs. care. I can tell you it has been a living hell. The first 2 weeks, was so painful I literally wanted to die. PLEASE get yourself off this med. save yourself the heartache.


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:14 pm 
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While TinaRinehart is correct in that some people have experienced fairly severe wd when coming off Suboxone, she fails to mention that there is a way to avoid it......a proper taper. For almost all of us, tapering off our drug of choice is impossible, otherwise we would have done that, right?

Suboxone, for many of us, is a bridge to being opiate free. We were able to stop our drug of choice, get on Suboxone and stabilize our lives. As our lives stabilize and we "recover" from our addiction, some of us choose to stop Suboxone and continue to deal with our addiction without the aid of Suboxone. Many of us are able to taper our Suboxone usage down to a point where we can jump off with minor wd symptoms.

With that said, it's also true that some of us weren't really able to taper our Suboxone usage and ended up jumping from a fairly high dose and then had to deal with the wd that came with it. I'm one of those people and I made it. The wd was tough, no doubt about it, but I made it.....I was never able to quit my drug of choice for more than a few days, but I made it through my Suboxone wd. I'd rather do Suboxone wd than OxyContin wd anyday!!

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:21 pm 
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Hi Tina,

You're welcome to post your own thread about your struggle to come off sub in "Stopping Suboxone", but we request that you not try to persuade people after they've made their decision about going on sub. It's one of the forum rules. We assume that people who have chosen to take sub have seen some of the information available online. So the OP has probably read similar opinions when researching.

We are a pro-sub forum for the most part. That doesn't mean that we think sub is perfect, just better than jail, death, homelessness, etc. For some reason there seems to be a population that doesn't do so well on suboxone, and they end up needing to come off of it. We support and encourage folks who are tapering off sub, or just new to sub, to somewhere in between. So you are welcome here!

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:36 pm 
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.....then again theres people like me, whos 30 pill a day addiction almost killed me until I found this life saving medicine that has me living my life as it was
before I became addicted to opiates in the first place with my wife back my sanity back my depression gone my money in the back my car payed off my clean friends back my new friends who help and are helped.....38 years of useing and here I am, alive.
3 1/2 years later....Opiate Addiction: Chronic, deadly, and relapsing disease. ... if this isnt for you, then I do t know what to tella...........


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Thank you to everyone who has contributed to my post. It took me 2 months to make the difficult decision to go onto sub and the pros and cons were many and varied and I almost didn't go on it. At the end of the day I have a psychologist who supports this decision and helped in my decision to go onto sub (despite my closest friend telling me I am just replacing one drug for another), I have a supportive GP and an addiction specialist (costs a bit to see a specialist but costs less than a day of oxy use) and they all say to me that in the near future if I continued my opiate path my options if I weren't to use sub were; in hospital on dialysis because of what I am doing to my kidneys or liver failure or OD. My use controlled me - it used me. I can tell you I am terrified of WD from sub (I have had some hard core WDs in the past) - but for now I want to be healthy and work and function - and for now I want to live and that statement alone is a huge breakthrough for me. I want to live! I will be using a medication to keep me alive which is sub. When I am strong enough I hope to get through WDs of sub - however its only my 6th day on it and I want to give living a go. I have limited friends who I talk to about this and I wouldn't tell my family, so for now I am going to be strong for myself, trust the professionals who work with me and keep using this forum as a place to listen, learn and talk.
I appreciate the input guys, thank you for sharing your concerns and experiences with me.
Super :)


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:14 am 
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Hi Super

I also debated going on sub for months! I knew the oxy would kill me & yet i was afraid to try sub. I am on since Sept 2013- about 8 months now. I had a difficult transition from oxy to sub but there were many factors. I didn't feel "right" the entire first week & my doctor was confused. I had back pain, leg pain, fever, felt like crap...well turned out i had kidney stones & when i passed one (or more - who knows) i realized it was all from the stones. Just proved to me the oxy was really was harming my body.

8 months later & lots of recovery work I feel good. I look forward to things, i cry again, smile again & even Laugh again. That is so amazing to me because for the 5 years i was addicted to opiates i was NUMB.

IMHO you made the best choice. It is such a personal choice I feel sad your friend said you were trading one drug for another. That's not true. You didn't change from oxy to dope, you chose a recovery medication. Like smoking....if you are quitting you don't change brands, you may use a nicotine patch or gum etc & that's not switching..that's recovering from smoking with some help. That's what i am doing & IMO that's what you are doing. Quitting the opiates using a medication that is monitored.

Hope this makes sense. I am glad you are posting & reading here.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:53 am 
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Hi Emily - you are so right - it is like using nicotine patches! I never thought of it like that. I think one of the reasons I debated getting on sub for a month or so is because I thought it would really interfere with my work (as if my habit wasn't!!!) and due to the stigma that is attached to daily pick ups over here which I bought into (and because I have had a bad experience with this in the past when I had to do daily pick ups when I was quitting benzos at one stage, the pharmacists treating me like scum) - I took my 10th dose today and am actually starting to feel that normal thing that everyone on here talks about LOL! Normal - wow! That in itself was really scary - that I would be "normal" for the first time in years of being addicted to various drugs. I honestly think that the reason I haven't been feeling 100% right is because I've been prescribed 4 5mg valiums a day too (because I was on a high dose again), but now that I have cut that right back, I'm feeling less fuzzy, less disorientated and way better.
I love this forum - I cant stop saying it! I'm learning lots and finding so many people that can help me and who have been through the same things as me and who I relate to.
Thank you for your thoughts - I really appreciate it.
Manda


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