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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:22 pm 
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I frequently read this blog by Dr.Jana Burson, and have found the last two entries very disturbing, especially for opiate addicted pregnant women. I'm afraid these draconian laws are going to fast reach other states and affect treatment for us all. these laws make no sense, especially since full agonists aren't nearly as tightly regulated as the treatment that is saving our lives, and the lives of addicted pregnant women and their babies It seems there must be something we can do.... but what?

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and read the last two blog entries. if you've got time, read them all, as they all contain info relevant to our recovery.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:29 am 
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Hey Lizzie,

I just read both blog entries and found "Criminally Pregnant In Tennessee II" to be funny. Although the law that Dr. "Fedup" comments on is very serious, I appreciated the satire in part II. Let's start sending those little addict newborns to the slammer! Lol!

I hope the governor of Tennessee is even partially intelligent and does not sign this into law. If implemented, this law would dictate terrible policy in TN. And I certainly hope that other states would not copy this type of legislation!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:32 am 
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isn't her blog great? idk how she does it, but she injects humor into the toughest of subjects! Lol
Scary stuff though, I hope that governor doesn't make it law.I think it's already hard enough to get treatment.
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I've been a big fan of hers for years I guess at this point. At one point I pointed her blog out to Dr J and he had actually linked it on his SuboxoneTalkZone.com site but I think those links disappeared with a software upgrade or something. I just thought it uncanny how like-minded they are. some readers were up in arms about some of her 'jokey' comments regarding what addicts do while in active addiction I think it was called 'You Know You're An Addict If...parts I and II' so she recently made it public that she is herself in recovery for fifteenish years, which I thought was really cool.

The one issue I ever had with anything she wrote about was her seeming rigid encouragement of people on MMT and BMT within her clinic to attend 12-step support groups insisting that they would find some benefit ala 'take what you can use and leave the rest.' Looks good on paper, but historically those groups are very unsupportive of people on maintenance and quite frankly people on maintenance do not have the need to attend 12-step groups, turn it all over, live one day at a time, humble themselves out of daily desperation and fear, etc. In her defense, this was some time ago and I recall quite a controversy about it among her readers, so maybe she's re-weighed the issue, I don't know...

I was actually talking to someone today about his concurrent attendance of NA while on buprenorphine and his eventual taper from buprenorphine at his sober 'support' networks behest and how it almost killed him but he made it back on buprenorphine, hopefully this time with a more thought out, safe, realistic timeline.

Wow, someone put a quarter in me! But, whatever, I haven't posted for a while, so I'm entitled. :)Point of the story is, yeah, Dr. Burson is another great resource and is a much needed voice in the world of medication assisted treatment!

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Hello all…I am new here and oh how reassuring this is…I live in TN and just began subutex treatment…it is just crazy that politicians try to judge and play a deity…i presume it would be better to drink alcohol while pregnant since it is legal…ugh


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Hi ark! Welcome to the forum! You would think that the politicians that are making these decisions would try a lot harder to educate themselves about addiction, especially when making laws adding criminal consequences! My guess is that most of these rich, white, guys assume that their addict daughters will be able to escape punishment while the poor and the uneducated will feel the criminal consequences disproportionately as always. Ugh is right!

Travis, I didn't know that all we need is quarters to get you talking more! I guess I'll be saving my change for the Travis machine now that I know. I always like to read your thoughtful responses. :)

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Thanks Amy! We all know that the politicians don't drink, commit adultery, look at porn or anything questionable. The reasoning is befuddling…send a woman to jail so she loses her job, possibly get a felony so she can probably never get a decent job again, and take the mom away from the child for years…yes, that will not create any issues for a child. Wow…also, I did read that the law said a woman can avoid charges by completing a "state treatment program"…this seems to indicate that the treatment programs are designated by the state specifically…do you think subutex maintenance would be considered treatment??
I am very concerned about this…due to my drug use, I do have a criminal record, but no felonies and am working on over 5 years since any trouble…I also have 2 Master's Degrees (MS and MBA)…so they are saying I belong in prison because I don't want to relapse and ruin all progress…I really want to get off of everything, but my mind, body, and heart are not really in unison on the subject


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