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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:32 am 
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I want this so bad!!! This is my third time , I inducted myself successfully and felt great yesterday...then came night time. I took 1mg of Klonopin ive been taking for years and Dr said was ok to continue... well 1 am came around and I felt like I was going to fall asleep but it just wouldn't happen... 3 am took .5 mg klonopin and nothing. Finally dosed off at 3;30 am and woke at 6.... just gave up. Im so upset because the insomnia is the only thing holding me back. Please does anyone have experience with this? Does anything work for sleep? Does it get better? I want this to work but cant not sleep it makes me manic... Please help...ty


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What times of the day are you taking the sub? If I take it after 1 or 2pm, no sleep for me! Even at those times I still gave a hard time sleeping, but if I just dose in the morning 6 hours later I can't walk from the pain. CC


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:31 pm 
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TY for the reply... its been a rough day on 2 hours sleep. I split my dose and take my last dose at 3pm. I spoke with my Dr he prescribed me trazadone to try tonight. Im a bit nervous to take it because I don't want to not sleep them be all messed up from all these meds.... but I have no other option. He said take my Klonopin then a trazadone. I don't want to stop the subs again over insomnia but I need to go to work and I cant function on no sleep.
Should I take my Sub only once in the morning? Please send me sleep vibes!!!


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 9:54 pm 
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I know it sucks. If I were you I would maybe try to take my 2nd dose a little earlier, but if you are worried about it, talk to you dr. If I take after 2, no sleep. Good luck, I'll send sleep fairies your way :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:08 am 
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Hi csinny, just my 10cents and you maybe don't want to hear it. If there's a class of drugs that will screw your sleep it's benzo and their paradoxical effects.oh and Xana€ is from the devil. Don't want to scare you but GET OFF Benzos but do it slowly OR you will be hooked forever. (Do your own research)

Trazodone I once used and similarly to Benzos class you have to take more and more. But trazodone and mirtazapine are at least safer meds imho (ADs).

Once you are off these meds guess which one will help you sleep and stay chilled. Right Suboxone in small amounts. Sorry if I come across arrogant but I used to take lots of other crap so I know. 95% of doctors have never used them. Sub at night is all you need. Good luck.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a medical practitioner and these comments are solely from my own experience and not a direction to you, conduct your own research for further corroboration and alternatives).


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:06 am 
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Ben you didn't come off arrogant at all, I appreciate your advice. I have been on Klonopin for at least 10 years (not abusing them) so I am sure I have built a tolerance and you are right. I hope to wean off of it once I get stabilized on the Subs. Im on my third day of Subutex after over 3 years of pills. Last night I took 50mg of Trazadone and 1mg of Klonopin. I slept about 5 broken hours, which I guess is better than two. I feel like I have a hangover though... My head is pounding and my eyes hurt. I look like crap ugh. Ill try the Trazadone tonight again and lower the Klonopin.
Its hard to function like this. Im happy that I havnt caved and took some hydro or Oxy ... Tues will be the challenge because im back to work. Ty all for the support.


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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:13 am 
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I'm glad I was helpful csinny..geez I was similar to you before going on suboxone earlier this year, popping all sorts of stuff the past 3 years which I put down to separation anxiety missing my 5 yr old son, but I've sorted through a lot of those feelings, as a shift worker I was also looking for short cuts hence my experimentation with sleep meds too. Many addiction specialists will tell you there's a class of drugs more addictive and dangerous than the opioid family and that is the benzo class.

So you take it easy coming off the klonopin as I see you're an experienced campaigner on that stuff. To help with sleep as you come off the klonopin you could discuss with your Doc rotating trazodone and mirtazapine. Remeron is the label name I think it's awesome for sleep and it's efficacy even beats most of the popular ssri ADs.

So early days for you on subutex, and if I were you I would see how your body responds to it over the next week or two and use it as a base to get you off not just opiates but also the Benzos. I know they are different pathways in the mind but it worked for me, and as I say above traz and mirtaz in conjunction for sleep and to help with mood. Do you know about baclofen? My addictions doc prescribes it to alcho's but it can help you come off the klonopin (shakes etc) but be careful as it can be habit forming but not to the degree of these Benzos meds.. You'll get there I'm sure :) take your time.


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