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 Post subject: Re: Absolutely
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:49 am 
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Well said TD .... no doubt it is an affective "stop the madness" chemical therapy. I would go as far to say a miracle drug. IMO ... its most effective quality is allowing an addict to know what it feels like to be somewhat normal. But thats where it ends for me. I just have a heartfelt problem with all those on this drug as maintenance for years at high doses. Those poor bastards, many of whom are really stuck in an addiction just as bad, who have no clue how much work is required to tapper and jump. All the kind people talking of how clean and sober at 4+ mg a day!
My heart goes out to em .... i wish more could be induced and maintained at a reasonable dosage.
anyway ... topic for another day.
I enjoy your comments TD ... Happy Thanksgiving ! ... sounds like both of us have much to be thankful for.


[font=Comic Sans MS]I am one of the "poor bastards" you speak of, though I'm not stuck in an addiction just as bad, and have no clue how much
work is required to taper and jump. I've tried it a million times from my drug of choice, and couldn't do it. Thank god
suboxone was their to help me become a better person, and NOT BE STUCK IN AN ADDICTION THAT IS JUST AS BAD.
How can suboxone be just as bad as stealing, lying, manipulating, neglecting our children, responsibilities, and basically
being a piece of garbage???? You are comparing apples and oranges.

Romeo was asking about recovery. Not about how bad sub is for YOU or why.


"This forum is for people who have made their choice whether it be for Suboxone, for Methadone, or for meetings and no medication. While I recognize that some readers are not yet at the end of that choosing process, I ask that they read the information and make their decision without encouraging debate on the forum.
PLEASE Do not get into debating which is better-- such debates never change minds, and often introduce false information that clouds intelligent decision-making.
Show the respect for the decisions of others and avoid personal attacks.

I respect your decision. Could you please try to be more respectful of the decisions of those of us, who choose
long term maintenance. And I am sorry, but you have no idea what a reasonable dosage is for me, or anyone else on
this forum for that matter. I don't consider you a poor bastard....please refrain from the personal insults and disrespect.
I was really enjoying hearing everyones thoughts on RECOVERY. Not their opinions on why THEY think my dose or length
of treatment makes me a poor bastard....Thank you for understanding.[/font]

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:26 am 
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I'm sorry goingstrong .... I did'nt mean to hurt the feelings of those on high happy maintenance. I did call it a miracle drug.
You have found your drug of choice and I support that choice.
Have a BLESSED Thanksgiving.


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You aren't sorry. At least not for what you're implying. Sub isn't my
drug of choice, or anyone elses. But thank you so much for your words
of wisdom, and another pointless post. I'm done reading ur posts. They
make zero sense and are nothing but condescending. You don't know me
so stop acting like you have a clue, about any of us.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:49 pm 
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macboy wrote:
I'm sorry goingstrong .... I did'nt mean to hurt the feelings of those on high happy maintenance. I did call it a miracle drug.
You have found your drug of choice and I support that choice.
Have a BLESSED Thanksgiving.




WELL,
I knew it would ONLY TAKE ONE person, to mess up a really good topic.....


LOOK MACBOY,,
You have STATED your OPINION, above, THREE TIMES NOW,
the 2nd time was RUDE
and the third time, was just DOWNRIGHT MEAN..


macboy wrote......

1.<
.... sub is a wolf in sheep clothing ... Don't feed it for a week and see how recovered you feel .... being clean should not be construed as not feeling dirty.... sub makes us feel and act sober .... I's an opiate replacement!!!


2.<
no doubt it is an affective "stop the madness" chemical therapy. I would go as far to say a miracle drug. IMO ... its most effective quality is allowing an addict to know what it feels like to be somewhat normal. But thats where it ends for me. I just have a heartfelt problem with all those on this drug as maintenance for years at high doses. Those poor bastards, many of whom are really stuck in an addiction just as bad, who have no clue how much work is required to tapper and jump. All the kind people talking of how clean and sober at 4+ mg a day!
My heart goes out to em .... i wish more could be induced and maintained at a reasonable dosage.
anyway ... topic for another day.



Obviously the THIRD one, is the "post"(rudeness) I quoted of yours'

Look, we ALL respect ONE ANOTHER here, OR TRY TO
WE respected YOU,,,
and IGNORED your first RUDE REMARK


if you took viagra to have sex with your spouse, I guess it's not "real sex" then, huh???
Ok, whatever.
NOBODY has to know, any medication any of us are on, UNLESS WE TELL THEM.....................


this is sopposed to be a SUPPORTIVE PLACE,,, a place to go for re-assurance that we are doing the right thing.

I've been on sub 19 mos, YEP, Im a poor bastard too.
but, I'll take this new HAPPY life, over my SHITHOLE life every day of the week.

WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYBODY ELSE ???????????


I dont know what any of us "poor bastards" EVER did to you???

And, thanks but we've been warned MANY TIMES OVER, about the horrid withdrawls that last 10-15years,
and that your never the same ,, and it causes permanent brain damage, oh and cars fall outta the sky, too
when you stop sub!!!!

[marq=right](THE ABOVE *** hilighted in blue *** WAS SCARCASM<<< NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY)[/marq]

so thanks anyways, but your fear tactics, and rudeness, are really not needed.

Im not trying to piss you off,
but that post WAS RUDE (you know that)
and I think your picking at goingstrong, and that's just NOT RIGHT.............


Im asking you VERY NICELY to stop..........
THANKS,,
IN ADVANCE.....................


"goingstrong"
thanks for posting the rules........
You're doing great, keep it up :wink:


Also, NOT that it even matters,
I actually have extra suboxone at the pharmacy, cuz I dont even take what Im perscribed, oh and GUESS WHAT????

I DONT FIEND FOR SUBOXONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont go steal for it, I dont rip people off to get $$ to buy it, NONE OF THAT ,,,,,
I have a JOB,
and go to work everyday!!!!!!!!

Im almost a "normal person"
I have been to hell and back, danced with the devil himself, lost everything I ever valued in life to
opiate addiction............

Suboxone MAY NOT be the "right choice" for many people and THATS OKAY.....
I dont mind when people post NEGATIVELY ABOUT SUBOXONE,
I do have a Problem when people post
NEGATIVELY ABOUT PEOPLE ON SUBOXONE, though. that's a whole different issue. Feel free to share your "true feelings"
about suboxone, just REFRAIN from downtalking those of us who had the choice of
DEATH
or suboxone...................deal????


On this thanksgiving, I definitely have A LOT to be thankful for.
Im thankful for my family/friends, (especially grams)
ALL my counselors (marrige, addiction, family, group therapist) yes, i attend all of those***
my job,
my health,
the fact my son, KNOWS me, and Im a part of his life now,
doctor, and that he does a big brother/sister type program w/suboxone patients,
my son's behavioral specialist,

I could actually go on for an hour,
but I'll "save it" for another day.

Thanks for listening
and
thanks to everyone who posts RESPECTFULLY here,
you make it a safe place, for people to talk about things they MUST talk
about to get any better
.



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to take things higher than a moderator, please PM Jamez70 or Dr. Junig (suboxdoc)

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