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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:40 pm 
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I am putting this in the anger section because I have heard or seen this way to many times and think we should have this thread on the forum to help newcomers, friends, partners and family understand by just taking suboxone/methadone is not the cure, you are far from being in the clear. Yes it is a great start but addiction doesn’t just up and go because you are taking one of these medications and things won’t change unless you make things change!

But it is all to common in the early stages of treatment people blame the medications and say they are not working because they have relapsed. There is so much to recovery than a pill and I think we need to help uneducated people understand this. And yes not everyone needs counseling groups or whatever it maybe but the average addict can’t do it without these things.

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Apparently, I need to post twice before I am allowed to provide evidence for what I say.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:07 pm 
For me, the anger comes from people pushing 12 Step religion onto others.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:08 pm 
Bboy42287 wrote:
I am putting this in the anger section because I have heard or seen this way to many times and think we should have this thread on the forum to help newcomers, friends, partners and family understand by just taking suboxone/methadone is not the cure, you are far from being in the clear. Yes it is a great start but addiction doesn’t just up and go because you are taking one of these medications and things won’t change unless you make things change!

But it is all to common in the early stages of treatment people blame the medications and say they are not working because they have relapsed. There is so much to recovery than a pill and I think we need to help uneducated people understand this. And yes not everyone needs counseling groups or whatever it maybe but the average addict can’t do it without these things.


Think about this. Maybe not everyone cares to sign up for AA/NA.

I know personally, the only thing I have to do to not use is not take a needle, put dope in it, and stick it in my arm. I don't believe that God or the table I call my higher power or whatever can stop me from doing that. Only I can.

I chose this link because he displays and cites MULTIPLE studies showing that AA is no more effective than no treatment.

Some of us are interested in using religion to get better, and some of us just care to use facts.

This is a link to an article citing studies about the effectiveness of buprenorphine.

**I had to take the citations out, but I will add them in 48 hours when allowed by the forum.**


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