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Hi! I am new to this site. I am very excited to be starting this new phase in my life, but I am very nervous. I saw my dr. Monday. I have an appt. next monday to begin my induction. I'm very nervous about stopping my medicine and feeling bad before I go in. I am hoping this is a life changing decision for me. I have spent the last several years worrying if I would be able to have norco when I needed it and my habit just increased. I am in a place that i am not happy with right now. I am wasting money just to get myself through each day. I pray this is the right decision for me and that I can be successful. I would appreciate any input/encouragement.


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Welcome Moveingup!!,
It is ok to be nervous at this point in time. We all do in the very begining so you aren't alone. You won't be alone in this
by sticking around here with us I can tell ya that!! :D

So, ok, it ll be a little tuff in the induction phase but well worth it a very short time later.. You need to be in moderate to severe WD to start and believe it or not, the worse the wd the better the bupe will work at this point.

So you have 5 days to get ready. Maybe try cutting back on you pill intake some this week .just a suggestion.

This is going to work for you Movin. Works for most people.

I aslo hjghly suggest that you read threads here in the Introduction forum and go over to Dr Junigs Talkzone and read some of his blog. The Best information on suboxone is there ..sorry to cut this short, but I wanted to welcome you and I know others wil be here soon to help .Breat group we have here.!!!!
Keep posting and ask ANY question you may have :D


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Thank you so much. I am very grateful to have found a dr. That accepted me as a patient. I have a very demanding job, mom to a teenager, and an only child with a parent who is dying with cancer. I just feel like if i wait for my world around me to be in perfect conditions.... It will never happen. I just want to feel normal again. I dont want to have to depend on the pills to dictate the type of day I have. Things have just gotten so out of control. I miss the old me and I am disgusted with the person I've become. My willpower isnt very strong. I am worried abt stopping my meds saturday night. I am going to try cutting my meds the next few days. Thank you for the advice. My family deserves me at my best. Im far from it right now. Im very glad I found this forum. It makes me feel like im not so isolated.


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Hey movingup and welcome to the forum!

Trust me, you'll be extremely glad that u did this, I promise u that. I'm also a single mother to a teenager (I also have two other children that's younger but my oldest is 17). I've been on suboxone for four years and I remember my induction very well. I was always that addict that was absolutely terrified of withdrawal, so I worried so much about that period of time of withdrawal before I could have my first dose of sub. I won't lie, it was tough but worth every second. I would do it all over again too, I wouldn't change a thing and u will realize just how worth it it really is. Sub worked for me when nothing else did. It removed my cravings and I could actually function as a "normal" happy person again. I actually wake up every morning at peace, no worries about withdrawal or how I'll make it through another day....it's honestly the smartest decision I have ever made.

I know ur scared about the withdrawal but look at it like this....if u keep using ur drug of choice, you'll eventually run out and have a time of withdrawal anyway, so why not use that on something that's going to completely improve ur life? Look at it like that and maybe it'll help ya feel a little less scared about it. Ur doing the right thing, hang around and ask any questions u have, this is a wonderful place for support :)

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I really appreciate your feedback. It's nice to know there are people who have been where I am. Im curious... Once I have been to my appt., I am on the suboxone, and hopefully if everything I have researched is correct, i wont feel the need to reach for my purse all day. Will there still be those times when I feel the need to grab for something? I have a feeling I do some of it out of habit.


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Hi moving up

Throw some tic tacos in your purse and if that habit hits you, take a tic tac. I also remember my induction. I have to tell you I was scared that my pain would be awful & the sub wouldn't help. Also scared of withdrawals. I had made up my mind that I had to stop the madness of addiction so my mind was set! I stopped Saturday & was inducted Sunday. I was worried my w/d's weren't severe enough! I slept Saturday nite (surprised me) & didn't really feel that bad. I met my doc at 10 am & he said I was good to go. He started me on 1 mg then one hour later he gave me 4 mg & 2 hours later he sent me home & told me to take one 8 mg strip at 4 pm. I went to work Monday and have been good since I started. It did take me a couple of weeks to get used to feeling normal again but I never felt sick

IMO, your decision is a good one I am sorry to hear about your parent. You do have a full plate. Do you have any other questions??


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Thank you for all the good advice and positive feedback. You have definitely given me a peace I haven't had in a while. I think the unknown is the scariest for me. Hearing that you did so well is very encouraging. I want these poor choices to be a distant memory. I am still pretty much in shock that I have allowed myself to get to this spot!


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Moving up

I said the same thing a thousand times! How did I lose control of pain meds. I have chronic pain & had taken Norco & percs responsibility for 20 years. Then I got into taking them every day, then a handful several times a day. It has taken me a long time to stop beating myself up about it. I feel fortunate I was able to stop the madness when I started sub.

I get good pain relief & feel normal again. I see an addiction specialist who has helped me immensely. The people on this forum have also been tremendous support.

It's normal to be scared of the unknown. Try to keep these positive comments from this board in the front of your mind.

You will be fine. It was just a little weird getting used to "normal" again. Not bad just weird lol


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Tiki is definitely better to ask about pain while taking sub, I wasn't an addict with pain issues so I don't have any experience with that like a lot of ppl do. But as far as feeling old habits creeping up from ur using days, I don't remember it being too bad for me at all. The suboxone takes care of cravings so well that it's honestly unbelievable lol. But I do remember that void of not having to run everywhere trying to find medicine or money to get medicine, it used to be something I had to do and when I didn't have to anymore I was like...well what do I do now. But that's where u just find ya a hobby or spending more quality time with ur kids comes in. I think you'll adjust pretty well and be pleasantly surprised by how well suboxone works. Before long you'll just be feeling like u did before u started using. I try to stay grateful about that every day, because it's such a gift for ppl like us who only want to feel "normal" again :)

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I understand that so well.... The want to feel normal again. Nobody knows that I have this issue. Only 2 close friends. The sneaking around to get my stuff and not even being able to plan to go anywhere unless I have planned ahead is getting so tiring. I have so many things I enjoy doing and I have pretty much stopped everything due to my addiction. I only havd about three days left before I go to my dr. Im very scared sbout stopping on Saturday. As usual, my weekend is packed w activitis. I just pray i can make it through sunday without taking anything. I hope its ok to take imodium. I forgot to ask my dr. Abt that. I know this is the right choice. I have lost all self control and obviously I have no willpower. Thank you so much for discussing all this with me. You all have truly made me feel better!


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Imodium is perfectly ok to take, the normal stuff for pain like ibuprofen or Tylenol is definitely ok...just as long as it's not an opiate and you'll be fine. My Dr is against any type of nerve pill with sub, urs may not be strict about it, but until u know for sure don't take any benzos. And try to think of it as this will be one of the last times u have to deal with withdrawal again. You'll be fine, this is the crappy part that we've all been through unfortunately to get to the other side. It's scary but it'll pass, and come here for support, everyone will be happy to help get u through this. This time next week, you'll be good. If u go through ur induction in ur doctors office like I did, hopefully you'll walk in not feeling so hot and walk out feeling a lot better! :)

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Boy, that's what Im hoping for. It's almost an hour drive to my dr. So it cld be a very long drive. I was hoping when I went last week he would give it to me to do at home, but he wants me to do it in his office. I understand why. He said I could use my ativan and my ambien. That was a relief. I think I can survive if I can sleep that night. I am a terrible sleeper.... So that was a huge concern that I had. I am just so anxious to get it started, so hopeful it works for me as well as it has others, and excited to feel like myself again. These past few months have just been bad. I dont feel good regardless of what i take. I need a change. It's time to take the leap of faith.


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Welcome moving up!
Many ppl like myself, experienced zero negative effects while inducting on suboxone.
I used heroin casually before progressing to a daily user for ten+yrs before suboxone. I used on the Saturday afternoon, Sunday was starting to feel like shit but slept the day away. Monday morning at 9 am I inducted on 3 mg and soon felt awesome!
Suboxone satisfactorily treats my pain issues and I also benefit from its anti depressant properties.
I now have four yrs clean because of suboxone.
It's truly life changing!
Good on you moving up and look forward to hearing more from you.


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Hi and welcome

I started suboxone 3 months ago and like you, no one knew apart from my dealer and a close friend. Its so tiring and hard work to sneak around just to get stuff to keep you going.
When I had to stop using the night before my appointment I was terrified I would bust but I didn't and amazingly I got through the night and in the morning I was then worried that I wasn't in withdrawal enough to start. My doc gave me a script of 8mg and sent me to my chemist saying im totally ready. He could see just by my by language and sweating that it was time.
I got to the chemist so nervous and they were not very nice but gave me my strip. After about 1 week they got to know me and its all good. Im extremely lucky that within 2 weeks I was allowed 5 takeaways. My AOD nurse let my GP know about my work hours as It turns out I only have 1 hour to get home from work and to the chemist. I work 50 minutes away so it was scary before that.
The other members are all giving great advice and you will be fine. The only issue I have had with sub was mild headaches for the first 2 weeks but I have read that is quite common and I don't get that anymore. I also don't have as much problem with constipation lol, compared to my DOC.

Think of hobbies or things to keep yourself preoccupied. Do you attend NA or have a psych or counsellor? I found that NA and AA are very helpful, and I also see a psych fortnightly and AOD counsellor weekly.
The suboxone will stop you craving but I found it very helpful to get help to start unravelling my life that I had drowned in drugs and alcohol for 20 years. I needed to start processing all of the emotions I had not allowed myself to feel by using drugs. Im pretty much socially and emotionally stunted because of my old ways. Im 37 but feel and act like a teenager ( I first started using one substance or another or both, daily I was 17). That's why I see professionals as I am still learning how to live through everyday situations and emotions, good and bad. Its like training your brain not to go to its default setting of scoring, when something happens and your not used to feeling that emotion or what to do in certain situations. I hope that makes sense.
Good luck, you will be fine.
Please keep posting as im very interested to hear how things are going for you.
Your also in the right place. This forum has helped me so much and due to my lack of family support because they don't know, I find posting really helps. And there are so many members with years of extremely helpful knowledge.

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It's very nice to know there is someone else who has done this without anyone finding out. Ive made it to this point without advertising my problem and I wld like to keep it that way. I live in a small town and everybody knows everybodies buisiness. Im just not ready to speak openly about it. My hope is that this is what I need to get myself back!


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Yeah
I live in a small kind of suburb and when Im at the chemist I just hope no one sees me. If yours is like mine, they may have a separate section to give out your meds.
I use my strips and then dispose of the packages at petrol stations, just to be sure my partner doesn't find them. I also bought a fake book that has a safe inside it that requires a key so it looks just like a boring book on my shelf that no one would even think to look at.
How long now until your induction? I guarantee you will feel great after taking the first strip, you will wonder why you took so long to get on it.
I am now so much more functional at work and home, its great . My family have the old me back, eve though they didn't know of my habit. I was a high functioning addict.
Just some advice, for the first week I felt slightly dopey when taking my dose so I decided to take it at night. This also had to be done because my pharmacy doesn't open until 9 and by tht time im at work 50 minutes away. That feeling went away within a week or so also. You may not even get it hopefully. You are going to have your life back :) Its the best feeling ever!
Good luck for tonight. Try to sty strong and not use, so tomorrow u can start your new journey and freedom of life without active addiction.
Chat soon :)


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Thank you for making me feel so positive abt this! I go monday morning at 8:30. I just took my last dose of norco and I am scared to death!!!


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You will be fine, I guarantee all this fear and maybe even second thoughts, Is totally worth it.
Do you have plans of any type of support in place? In my country they require you to be involved in something like a counsellor, psych or support group.
I really cant wait to hear you once you have started sub.

Chat soon (I know its easier said than done but try not to do your head in by over thinking it)


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