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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:34 am 
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Hello
finding this forum has been a great discovery for me...
I am an addict and have now been on suboxone for the past 5 months.
I have tried it before for short periods of time in order to detox.
I usually would manage a 3/4 months clean and eventually relapse. After my last relapse my doctor suggested I go on suboxone for a few months. I started on 8mg and, a couple of weeks ago, I went down to 6 mg
the plan is to go down to 4 then 2 in the next 3 months. The aim is to be off it after that...
I must say that I have been feeling great on it and, so far, the tapering down, hasn't affected me at all.
I found it very interesting to read the posts of those whom are taking it for depression. I also suffer fom depression and have been diagnosed bi polar (doc not too sure about that yet) and have taken various anti depressants and mood stabilizers...somehow they don't seem to work for very long.
It seems that the past few months on sub + half my usual dose of antidepressant have been the most stable I have felt in years and of course no cravings. It seems to work for the alcohol as well: when I was off heroin in the past I would start drinking way too much...
You also have meetings here, I would love to participate to one and discuss this all suboxone with people in the same situation.
I am a bit worried when I read about the ones that have had huge problems kicking it altogether...
Not sure what else to write...but would love to hear from any of you.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:02 am 
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Life with bipolar crap is kind of like a salvage job ... You learn to do the best you can with what you have to work with .... My shrink ( he kind of likes to be called that ) has been shrinking for over 40 years .... If there was another med that did what Suboxone did I would be on it , but there is not ... For me the Suboxone I take today helps me get going the next morning , I would NEVER have been able to keep painting all these 50 yrs without the help of Suboxone .... The tramadol I took for 5 yrs rewired my brain..... Also , after taking it for 5 yrs I don't enjoy drinking at all , and funny thing is I used to always enjoy bumming a smoke from another contractor on the jobs I work , now that makes me feel sick ,just like alcohol does , just 1sip or 1 puff of a smoke makes me feel like shit the rest of the day ... So try to get yourself to the lowest dose needed and live your life, the generic tabs work the best for me , they dissolve in seconds and your done , the film is a pain in the ass for me ... My customer takes about 5 different AD meds , I take 1 , Suboxone ..... Mike


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:23 am 
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Hi Luvi and welcome to the forum!

I've never been diagnosed with depression, but have friends and family members that have. I am well aware of the problems of those affected by this illness. And even though I technically haven't been given that depression diagnosis, I sure felt depressed while using and abusing drugs of every kind over the years. And Suboxone sure made me feel better in that capacity, and get on with everyday life, and do the things I enjoyed doing without that feeling of doom hanging over me. It made all the difference.

I know what you mean about reading stories of those having problems getting off the subs. I read them too. But I chose to form my own opinion, and write my own story about getting off Suboxone, and recently Subutex. And it wasn't no where near as bad as what I had been reading. In fact my experience getting off was so minor that I actually thought something was wrong. But it wasn't and I continue to feel great each day.

I believe those that do feel good, and have the easiest times getting off subs simply do not stick around on forums like this and give their story, or continue to post. I think instead they are out enjoying life and doing things they missed in the past, or where too high to enjoy before. I actually believe there are many more positive experiences getting off subs than there are negative ones because of this reason alone. Form your own opinion like I did Luvi, and you decide how good or bad it was for you!

You mentioned getting down from 6mg to 4mg, then to perhaps 2mg and then being finished. I'm not sure if you meant jumping from 2mg when you get there, but if you do I would suggest you give that more thought. That 2mg is a huge amount of sub, and I tried jumping from there myself only having to get right back on it and trying again. I couldn't do it and had to taper lower before being successful. Might be the same for you too? Or maybe not, and you can get off easily at 2mg as we really are all different.

It seems that those tapering to the lowest dose possible have the least amount of problems. Many taper down to well under .25mg and then get off. You will make that decision when the time is right for you alone.

No matter what you choose to do we will be here with support along your way. Suggestions and advice will be offered and you take what you feel is best for you and leave the rest. You have to decide what will make it easiest on yourself Luvi, and I know you can do it. Take care and again welcome. Keep us updated with your progress. You will find posting helps so much.

Karen xoxo


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:42 am 
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Thanks you for your replies...

Mike: at one stage in my life I was clean for almost 5 years, taking anti depressants and mood stabilizers, doing therapy and also going to AA/NA meetings. I stayed clean because I was determined to do so but I did not enjoy my life: I felt like a zombie. Looking back at those years i just remember lying in bed a lot, watching TV, eating...not much else. That's why being on sub is such a relief: I don't feel like that. I have the energy and motivation to actually do things and even be with people (I normally have great social anxiety)

Karen thanks for the advise on the tapering: how long were you on suboxone for? For the moment I just want to concentrate on getting down to 2...then we will see. My doc is an addiction specialist and certainly does not prescribe the drug easily, I was very surprised when he suggested 6/8 months to me.
I am 49 years old and have been wasting most of my life first on drugs and then, lately on getting clean then relapsing, getting clean again...I have had enough! I hope this will give me the kick start that I need.

I am looking forward to reading more of everyone's stories and hopefully participating in some meetings.

Luisa


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