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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:52 am 
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Hi everyone,
It's great to see I'm not alone in this struggle. I've been on subs since late 2007 early 2008. Originally started at relatively high dose(for my tolerance) 16mg prescribed to be by my adolescent psychiatrist(even though I was 24 yrs old at the time). He prescribed it to me because my physical dependency to opiates was severere and I truely wanted to quit. I manipulated him (just as I have done to most people in my life involved w my addiction). He had no real tappering plan of getting me off the subs. Honestly I believed opiate addiction and addiction treatment was well out of his scope. My beliefs were confirmed when my insurance told me they would only cover my subs if they were prescribe from an addiction specialist. After leaving that dr. And actually going to a sub clinic starting in 2010, I was then able to start a weening program. Due to the amount of $ it costs me a month (significantly less than my oxy n dilaudites. Yet still pricey), I found cheaper means to obtain the subs and have been trying to complete the weening process on my own. I am taking 1/12th of an 9mg strip a day. It seems like such a low dosage. Yet everytime I try to quit, I am still getting way to sick to make it past the first 3 days. Thanks for listening to my story. I'm interested to know, if anyone else has gotten to this low a dosage and are having the same troubles as me? Or if the subs are so deep in my system after 5+ years of taking them that it's going to be a different process for me? I'm even considering taking these for the rest of my life. I think I'd be comfortable doing that, but my gf of 10 months knows nothing of this and am really afraid to tell her because I've been lying to her this long already. This only confirms to me more that I am still very deep in my addiction. Advice? Help? Just some support, love or acknowledgement?
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Hi johnnyh,

Welcome to the forum!!

After reading your post, I would have to say, as you've acknowledged, that your addictive ways are still very much intact and I would suggest you stay on Suboxone.

It sounds like you're on .67mg of Suboxone (1/12 of an 8mg pill/film). That is a fairly low dose, why not just stay on it for a while longer and maybe get in with an addiction counselor to help you. Maybe after some work with an addiction counselor you'll be in a better spot to quit?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:24 am 
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Hey there Johnny and welcome to the forum!

I certainly understand your situation, I've been there right where you are now, many times in fact! It's not an easy road, but you can do anything you want to do if you have a positive attitude, a firm commitment to the program, and the desire to WANT TO get off the drugs if that is your personal choice. If you want to remain on the subs for the rest of your life that's also your choice and you will receive support here either way you go. The members here are extremely kind, caring, and knowledgeable with the experience behind any advice or suggestions. In other words your in great hands here Johnny! :D

Your right, sub is extremely strong and powerful, and a tiny bit goes a long way. I was on Suboxone for about 3 years and inducted at 24mg per day. I felt the time was right for ME to get off and began to taper. I got down to 2mg and tried to jump from there. It was a no go because the symptoms were just too severe for me to handle at that time. I came here, got lots of advice, suggestions and support and was able to taper down to .50mg. Had to have emergency several days ago and decided the time was right to stop the sub. Long story but today I my 11th day clean and free! I feel wonderful too!

I guess being on it for about 5 years as you have, if you want off a slow, steady taper is the answer as most here will agree. You mentioned tapering down 1/12th of a 9mg strip. I have not heard of a "9mg" dose of sub Johnny, Only 8mg and 2mg film strips. The best I can figure is you are taking approximately .50 - .75mg of sub each day. Or 1/2 of 1 (one) mg to 3/4 of (one) mg. Does that sound right? If so that's a fairly low dose right there! But if your having issues getting off that dose perhaps you should taper even lower, much lower in fact!

There have been many here that have reduced all the way down to near zero. Get the dose as low as you possibly can and then try jumping. Bet that helps! It's difficult cutting doses that low and there is a "liquid taper" method explained here very well. Also look for the thread of the member "Girl on a Mission" as she recently got off by using the liquid taper process and it worked perfectly for her! That thread is in this same section.

Guess you have to decide what's best for you. Make your decision and go for it! If you want to taper and get off let us know and help is here for you. Keep posting and let us know how your doing ok Johnny. Again welcome and have a great day!

Karen xoxo


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Thanks for the support and congrats on 11 days. You're right it was a typo, 8mg strips not 9. Plan on going to the dr. Today or Tom to discuss it w him. I'm trying to get a new job and am awaiting results from my drug screen. Need to make sure I have a valid script for when I test positive. Any idea what sub show up as? Opiate I would assume. Thanks again for the welcome and kind words


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Suboxone doesn't show up as an opiate, it shows up as Buprenorphine and the test has to specifically test for Buprenorphine.

Good luck with the job!

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