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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:04 am 
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Hi Ya'll,

I've been on subs for a while (3 years or so) and am down to .50mgs once a day. I would like to go to a detox facility (to quit the sub completely) that offers spiritual type settings and one on one therapy, exercise and a medically supervised detox. I would like to be given meds if necessary to get me through, anti- diarrhea, anti nausea, meds for sleeping and or anxiety, which I've always had along with depression. I don't want to sit at home by myself and go through these wd's. I'd prefer to be with others going through the same thing and work with addiction specialists. I have insurance and even though i'm on the east coast, I'll go anywhere warm, 30 days or more.

Can anybody refer me to a nice rehab facility that has good reputation?

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:28 pm 
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This is just the detoxes they use. Use the link below to get to a page where you can click on a link for each one and read about the places one at a time.

http://www.aetv.com/intervention/treatment/#detox

DETOX CENTERS

Austin Recovery Austin, TX

Meditox Palm Beach, FL

Nexstep Medical Detox Orem, UT

New Vision at Lakeview Hospital Bountiful, UT

Palm Partners Recovery Center Delray Beach, FL

Richardson Regional Medical Center Richardson, TX

The Right Place Residential Detox Fort Lauderdale, FL

St. Luke's Behavioral Health Center Phoenix, AZ

Serenity House Abilene, TX

Summer House Detox Center Miami Beach, FL

Sunrise Detox Lake Worth, FL and Stirling, NJ

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas Dallas, Texas

Town and Country Hospital Tampa, FL

I went to The Right Place Residential Detox Fort Lauderdale, FL, and it was wow and they kept me very comfortable.

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I remember reading a story about a guy who took a vacation to somewhere tropical after a taper and basically got a room at a all-inclusive for 4 or 5 days. So he flew down there and basically detoxed by himself (after a taper), but other people were around. I remember he said he spent a day or two in his room but then slowly started going outside and laying in the sun and then had a good day or two of fun. It was the off-season so it wasn't very crowded. Having food available 24/7 was very convient and I think he talked about having a tropical drink or two the first few days.

I was tapering myself and was so envious. That sounded perfect! But everyone is very different. I would love to be able to do that personally, but I am a extroverted introvert. I am a shy person, but also enjoy the presence of people and like to have a conversation or two. I love people watching!

Someone on this board has talked about taking walks at a mall during the first few days of your jump and that seems like a great idea (most likely going to be cold). Sorry, I am rambling here, but I do think it is very important to get out and do things when you are on a taper. Exercise is good of course, but I also like to "get out in the world". After I would taper off of full agonists, I remember feeling like I was "reintroducing myself to the world".


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Thanks all for the info, I am looking into palm partners. I feel I need help with drawling from the subutex. I would like to just get away so I'm not so alone and focused on every little pain or bad feeling. I'm either going to palm partners or just a mini vaca to FL or Cali and stay for 10 days. Right now I'm at .5 mg a day and my trick is to take it in the middle of the nite or very early in the am, like 3-5 am so not to be nauseous from the meds and going back to sleep. There fore I'm ready to come down some more on my mgs. I hope to be down to less than .25 mgs b4 going to rehab. Subutex helped me so much but after 3 +years on it I am ready to quit and want to feel normal. Personal choice. And if for some reason I start craving, then I'll accept the idea that I am one to stay on sub long term, at the lowest comfortable dose. This medication saved my life and I hate when people say i traded one addiction for another. I'm not addicted to sub, I'm dependent on it.

Thanks again for the responses and great info!

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There are benefits and drawbacks to an inpatient detox / rehab facility for coming off long term opioid replacement therapy.

The main drawback for me would be the fact you'll be sharing the facility with patients who are fresh out of addiction. While you've likely had 3+ years away from using, these people will often literally be fresh off the street. For a lot of them, drugs is all they can talk and think about, as it's all their lives have been for X number of years. Whereas you'll have made a bit of a life for yourself.

For SOME people coming off ORT, this could bring about a regression. It's the same for people who've been clean off all drugs who go in rehab for a "refresher". Most of the time they'd end up keeping themselves company, because they didn't want to be brought down in all the drug talk and drama. Especially given most of the other people will relapse in the weeks post-rehab, if you get close with any of them, it can be hard to see people fall over. To sum it up, a lot of the people in there won't be as ready as you are to get clean.

You'll basically have gone from working/studying, socialising, being independent and having a semi-normal life... to spending 28+ days talking about drugs and recovery 24/7. If this is what you think you need, go for it.

Also most rehab facilities are 12-step based, so if you're not a 12-stepper already, be prepared to shift your whole psyche into that way of thinking, which isn't for everyone.

There are benefits though with the group sessions etc. You will be taught techniques to beat cravings and stay clean while in a safe environment. But actually using them in the face of temptation is a different ballgame. Just remember that you have achieved a lot and grown a lot in these 3 years. Some hardline counsellors sometimes think otherwise, being so abstinence focused, and see ORT as little different to using.

It is seriously worth researching and finding out from people who've been in the facilities their thoughts. Because in my experience they do vary a lot. And some of their approaches, at least for me, may not have been healthy.


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tearj3rker wrote:
There are benefits and drawbacks to an inpatient detox / rehab facility for coming off long term opioid replacement therapy.

The main drawback for me would be the fact you'll be sharing the facility with patients who are fresh out of addiction. While you've likely had 3+ years away from using, these people will often literally be fresh off the street. For a lot of them, drugs is all they can talk and think about, as it's all their lives have been for X number of years. Whereas you'll have made a bit of a life for yourself.

For SOME people coming off ORT, this could bring about a regression. It's the same for people who've been clean off all drugs who go in rehab for a "refresher". Most of the time they'd end up keeping themselves company, because they didn't want to be brought down in all the drug talk and drama. Especially given most of the other people will relapse in the weeks post-rehab, if you get close with any of them, it can be hard to see people fall over. To sum it up, a lot of the people in there won't be as ready as you are to get clean.

You'll basically have gone from working/studying, socialising, being independent and having a semi-normal life... to spending 28+ days talking about drugs and recovery 24/7. If this is what you think you need, go for it.

Also most rehab facilities are 12-step based, so if you're not a 12-stepper already, be prepared to shift your whole psyche into that way of thinking, which isn't for everyone.

There are benefits though with the group sessions etc. You will be taught techniques to beat cravings and stay clean while in a safe environment. But actually using them in the face of temptation is a different ballgame. Just remember that you have achieved a lot and grown a lot in these 3 years. Some hardline counsellors sometimes think otherwise, being so abstinence focused, and see ORT as little different to using.

It is seriously worth researching and finding out from people who've been in the facilities their thoughts. Because in my experience they do vary a lot. And some of their approaches, at least for me, may not have been healthy.







I went to GRAPEVINE VALLEY HOPE IN DALLAS, TEXAS (GRAPEVINE, TEXAS) right next to Dallas for 32 days.
They had the spiritual, and a lot of good stuff, but it was a 12 step program with AA meetings every night and they would give me nothing to help my anxiety and withdrawal except clonodine. I begged for something, but they refused.

The alcoholics got librium when they felt nervous...all they had to do was ask for it, but us druggies got nada...
I was never able to understand that? I felt so bad it was hard to get out of bed and go to the classes. Then I got labeled for not wanting to participate...etc...If they had just given me something for my nerves ...like the librium the alcoholics got it would have been a good place to go, but I cannot recommend it to anyone because of the cold turkey withdrawal.

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I think you will find that a detox is a bit different than rehab. It was more of a medical facility than a rehab. You can and probably will get medicine to lessen the withdrawals etc...There are some detoxes I have read about and researched where you do check into a motel. One of them does a fast 3 day detox with the pill form of ibogaine. Which is no way like the root form. You are monitored but you don't have all the hallucinations etc...Maybe this might be something to look in to.

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downing2b wrote:
Hi Ya'll,

I've been on subs for a while (3 years or so) and am down to .50mgs once a day. I would like to go to a detox facility (to quit the sub completely) that offers spiritual type settings and one on one therapy, exercise and a medically supervised detox. I would like to be given meds if necessary to get me through, anti- diarrhea, anti nausea, meds for sleeping and or anxiety, which I've always had along with depression. I don't want to sit at home by myself and go through these wd's. I'd prefer to be with others going through the same thing and work with addiction specialists. I have insurance and even though i'm on the east coast, I'll go anywhere warm, 30 days or more.

Can anybody refer me to a nice rehab facility that has good reputation?

Thanks in advance,
Downing


Caron Texas (Google) Excellent facility!

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downing2b wrote:
I'm either going to palm partners or just a mini vaca to FL or Cali and stay for 10 days.
Downing


If you don't end up going the traditional 12 step location and decide to take a vacation do you have anyone to go with or a place to stay? Or do you have plans to go somewhere where you can engage in activities? I think if you get that low of a dose you might be able to basically distract yourself, especially after the first few days.

Whenever I am tapering I eventually just notice one day that "oh, I actually feel okay today" and that is when I know I am getting close to stabilizing on that current dose.

Going to a 12 step place would bring up a bunch of issues that I personally do not want to revisit (I gave the 12 steps a good try, found that it actually made it harder for me and I was thinking some crazy stuff). What Tear said is correct, most 12 step places are rigid in their beliefs and you should prepare to get told that you actually haven't ever been "clean".


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