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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:04 am 
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I’m a newbie here and needs to relocate to Toronto next month on suboxone and I’m worried about this. I’m not sure whether the it’s possible to move there with suboxone. I have the prescription ready from my doctor and I have also consulted the help of an overseas moving company in Toronto called Armstrong Moving who would help me to move my things safely. The thing I’m only worried about is the suboxone. Any advice or suggestions?


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Where are you moving from? I don't know much about Canadian policies.

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Are you worried about loss of medication? Or about finding a new doc? Since I practice in a state that 'almost' borders Canada, I know that buprenorphine treatment is hard to find in that country. Are you a Canadian citizen?


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I moved from the US to Canada in 2006, and had Suboxone on me. It wasn't questioned at all. Since that time, I have crossed the border (both ways) countless times. Not once have I not had either an opiate (bad choice), methadone (better choice), or Suboxone (best choice) with me. I have never been stopped. I have been stopped over bringing a salad into Canada (fined $100, couldn't pick up my luggage that day, it was a nightmare), but not medication. Keep the Rx labels on your meds, and, as far as I know, you can bring in up to a three month supply. I ALWAYS keep mine in my carry on (except when I was on Methadone, because of the liquid issue), and have never even been questioned. I don't bring it up, and neither do they.

With the customs agents, I find that if you give them cause to question you, they will. You might be randomly searched, but the medication is available here, so you should encounter no difficulties. I wish I could offer suggestions as to a clinic in Toronto. Be aware that the legislation here is MUCH tighter. As an example, initially, you may have to go in and take your Suboxone at a pharmacy (witnessed ingestion) on a daily basis. After so many clean random urine tests, they may allow first two "carries", which means you get two days of reprieve from having to go in to get dosed. Then, they may bump it up to four. My understanding is that, by law, the maximum is six. However, if you have your Suboxone prescribed off-label for pain, there are fewer rules. I would look into seeing a PM specialist (assuming you have pain). If not, you will have to go the usual route of an ORT clinic. Whatever you do, find an independent clinic - do NOT go to the provincial addiction clinics. They have even stricter rules (ie. pick up is at 8:30 a.m., and if you are not there, you lose, and also risk discharge from the program). The provincial clinics are geared toward a more transient/homeless population. At least, that's my experience in the Western provinces.

Good luck! I can ask the clinic here for some suggestions in Toronto, if you would like. Simply let me know.

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I forgot to mention - as you are likely aware, Canadians are huge on manners. We're always sorry for being sorry. When you speak with the customs agent(s), smile, be friendly (not too friendly, but politely friendly), and thank them for their time and trouble. The more Canadian you act, the quicker the process is. Above all, whenever they do something, say thank you. It's a cultural thing that drives all of my US friends nuts (I've had acquaintances quit speaking with me because I apologize too often), but is expected behaviour here. And, Toronto has a unique culture of walking quickly. When I lived there, I couldn't figure out why everybody was speed walking. But, it's a fabulous city with SO MUCH to do. I would move back in a heartbeat. Again, good luck!


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