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you shouldnt have too much trouble tapering from 2mgs.. i did it earlier last month, but on day 7 decided i rather stay on SUB a little longer as I was having really BAD cravings, i jumped at .5-.25mg somedays I dosed twice, other days just once at .25mg..

I think Im going to get off around march, as I have spring break around then and hopefully I can get me some comfort meds from my doc and go on a 'supervised jump' as I rather just not have on my med records that I started suboxone treatment then just stopped going I NEED the doctor to record that I successfully completed the treatment as my gun license(decent collection definetly worth some$$) depends on it and my future(canada has renewals every 5 years, and it clearly asks if any addictions/mental health, when I applied I was still in active addiction so it wasn't on my medical records)


I have decided to taper too and make it easier on myself. I have got it down to about .75 mg a day, and next week I will lower that to .25-.5 mg a day. After a week of that, I shouldn't have any problem jumping from there... right? Lol... it is this nightmare of losing everything that keeps me thinking I need to get more. I actually called my buddy in Maine and asked him to send more, but not sure if he is going to or not... we never completely agreed on it. So, if he doesn't, I have about 4 mgs left. I should try and stretch that to 2-3 weeks. If I can make that happen, I should be in the clear. Only symptoms I have currently, is slight fatigue, and this STUPID runny nose. Occasionaly, I will feel that entire body anxiety/restless leg/want to stop my feet through the floor feeling, but that is usually right before I take my dose. I think starting with my last 4 mgs, I might just not take it until I feel some strong wd's, and then dose the .5 mg... I think I should be able to go like 36 hours w/out any. Good luck, and keep me posted on how you do... I will do the same.


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To get lower than 1 mg I had Wd pains and stretched my doses as long as possible try holding off then dose .25 or lower using the water method


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To get lower than 1 mg I had Wd pains and stretched my doses as long as possible try holding off then dose .25 or lower using the water method


Well, thats the good part about the strips. You can pre cut them to be even doses. I hate to admit this, but I actually still take my dose nasally and it seems to work really good. I think that WD's shouldn't be too bad if I jump from .5 mgs... I mean, that little tiny amount cant be doing much at this point except for satisfying my mental addiction... not sure though. All I know is that I can see the end is near and it is getting both exciting, and nerve racking at the same time. I just want to be free! For goodness sake, this shit, along with other substances, has ruled my life for 13 years now... omg!


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You would DEF. be surprised how much .5mg actually does, its def. not just calming mental cravings. I would find a doctor then finish your taper. I have a feeling you're gonna try to use that last 4mg to taper then jump then find yourself right back where you were at the beginning of this thread. Also if im correct you said that you do not take it sublingually, that you snort it? If thats the case then I dont even believe you need to be going off it right now. Snorting it to me would mean you still have a bit of old habits and issues you need to work out before coming off to prevent relapse, the 2 years you've been on is a lot to throw away because you didnt work on yourself. Suboxone is a tool, not treatment. It needs to be used while you work on yourself and if youre snorting sub then it doesnt sound like you did that. I wish you the best though and hope everything works out. Keep us posted.

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I have to agree with sodone... I believe the buprenorphine dose for pain to opiate naive patients is .2 mg, so .5 might sting more than you think. I typed in the zip code for Brevard county in the finder on suboxone dot com, changed to within 40 miles and 80 doctors came up. You may have already done this. But you should seriously get in to see one and I would just be fairly honest about your situation. I was taking suboxone from the street for a couple months 2 years ago when I started because I was trying not to put dilaudid up my nose anymore. Granted, I lucked out and found a doctor on my 1st call who was an addiction specialist and he understood my situation. I was very nervous about it but it was the best move I ever made, no more stress about getting my meds and more than that you will feel very good about taking responsibility doing the right thing. About the nasal use, if it were me I would try to stop that and not sure I would mention it to the doctor?


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I agree with both of you. I am no way thinking i am in the clear.i am very much still an addict and my behavior in the way i administer my dose proves that. I have 24 Mg on the way to me now, and i plan to taper to the smallest possible account before a jump When i am ready to make the leap, i plan to consult with my doc... Sound good to you all? What do you think the best amount is to jump from?


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Hi guys. So listen to this... I'm going to get alot of grief for this I know. So, I was down to last little strip, and I rationed it out to last about a week and a half. I ran out wednesday (a couple weeks ago) and was expecting that the effects would be minumal. They werent too bad, although I had to take friday off work, and saturday I ended up taking a bunch of immodiums to calm some of the WD's. I ended up going about a week without any suboxone, and I was starting to feel ok. Well, the day I ran out, I panicked and had my friend send some out... needless to say, by the time it got there I was about 9 days clean. My stupid addictive personality took a piece the second I recieved it in the mail... now I am right back to an everyday dose. WTF! I had made it.... I was in the clear... I was/am so ashamed of myself and I cant say how much I regret the decision to take some that day. I was standing over the toilet getting ready to flush it, and I was like.... well, I can take just a little peice and then flush it. NOPE. I should have known better.

The only good news out of all that... if you taper down really low, the WD's only lasted about 3 days, followed by 4 or 5 days of fatigue. I have since started to gear myself up for another taper and quit, and this time I know what to expect. I have a doctors appt set up to help me with the restless leg/high blood pressure/insomnia so I will make the transision a little easier this time.

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Don't beat yourself up and do NOT feel ashamed. These things happen and you're certainly not the first person to do this. Have you turned inward and tried to figure out why this happened? Maybe think about it for awhile and see what you can figure out. (Or w/ the help of a therapist if you have one.) Because I'm thinking SOMETHING happened and if you can find out what it was, you'll be better prepared to handle it when the situation arises again, because you can bet it WILL happen again - maybe even after you've stopped suboxone. And you know what that means - it could mean relapse. Therefore, I'd suggest trying to ascertain what happened.

I'd also suggest other than figuring that out, don't look backwards and just focus on today and your current taper. This is where you are NOW, so just move forward. Use whatever you learned from your previous taper to make this one even better.

You might even accomplish a more successful taper this time! Keep us posted and good luck.

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Thanks alot. That was certainly a very encouraging post. I have tried to figure out what the trigger was, and it was a combination of events i think, but mostly I just wanted to feel energetic and happy again and concentrate on work. For that week I was off sib, I could not focus on my job, I was unhappy and boring to my family, didn't want to do anything or go anywhere, just layed around all evening and weekend, was all depressed and debbie downer all the time, and I just wanted to feel "normal" for a day! That's going to be the hard part.

What have I learned... well I started exercising in preparation for the fatigue. I figured it will help me energize and rest better. I have also been eating healthier (no fast food, no fried foods) to combat that lathargic, heavy feeling after the WD's wear off, and I am waiting to be schedued in at a addiction specialist MD that can prescribe whatever is nessicary, but also offer me mental stability... I may need some kind of solution for the extreme anxiety that followed after the last dose, and contributed to the hard time focusing at work. I could not sit still, and my hear felt like it was going to pound out of my chest at times.


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Suboxone withdrawal is said by most people who have stopped it to be rather up and down'ish and drawn out. In other words, after quitting and even being off it for awhile, you may still have bad days mixed in with good days. What you are describing are all symptoms of your withdrawals. Have you considered speaking to your doctor about clonidine? It's a BP med that is sometimes used to treat opiate withdrawals. It won't make the symptoms disappear, but it can take the edge off. It's worth a conversation with your doctor about using it while you continue tapering down. It's helped many people.

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