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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:15 am 
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Surgery is a path that may work but until then are there any meds OTC or prescription that are not new or being tested that do work with Sub for treating arthritis?

Being over 50,I had to change or simply lower dose and discontinue all but med.It may have to go for I seem to get a side effect of spastic esphogas from Suboxone.I may start to discontinue Sub but 1st I'll discuss wth Dr.

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Hi TOS,

I too am over 50 and have arthritis in various parts of my body. Opiates aren't and never were good for arthritis. The best medicine has always been anti-inflammatory drugs, ie; Ibuprofen, Tylenol, Aspirin, etc.

The best OTC drug for me has been Aleve. That drug alone has been a life saver for me. My Sub doctor told me the best combo was 2 Aleve with 2 Tramadols (Ultram). Some may disagree about the Ultram part but that is mostly is for my neck and back. You won't feel any euphoria from the Tramadol due to the Buprenorphine in Suboxone.

Cod liver oil capsules is an old home remedy that has merit with many people. Some swear by it, I'm on the fence with it. Voltaren gel works well too. It's a topical gel you put right on the problem area. Both the Ultram and Voltaren gel are by prescription only so talk with your doctor about them.

That's all I use and they all work well. Getting plenty of exercise is part of feeling good too. Mostly walking is what I do. You just need to get the blood flowing to feel better all over. I felt my best when I used to jog. 5 miles a day and it got rid of all my aches and pains. That's too hard on the knees and back now so a good paced walk does the trick.

Hope that helped some.

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Have you tried Celebrex? It worked well for my TMJ pain, but then I started having severe itching whenever I took it. It may work for you though. And Aleve is really good too!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:20 am 
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Symptoms: My joints get stiff and achey I feel like there is no oil between articulating surfaces,area where joints rub or come together.Numbess or limbs falling asleep also happens,sometimes I can not move limbs.
If I move or stretch during sleep or when waking,symptoms lesson.Exercise helps the most.

Surgery will probably be most benificial and I am going to make it a priority.

I'll try Aleve and talk to physician.

One question does Suboxone kill or dull pain for others?

I ask this for I may see about an increase dosage.I try my best to just take enough to knock withdrawls.It can be rather uncomfortable after 24 hours but I feel it works much better this way.

.I think it does relive pain or make it more bearable but when I read about it,it's not allowed to be used or precribed for pain so is the relief just in my head?
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Any opioid will provide pain relieving effects, that is it will dull the emotional response to pain not completely take it away. So, Suboxone makes it bearable as you say.

Buprenorphine has been used in other forms then Suboxone/Subutex for 30 years for the control of pain. There are still formulations out for pain only and not the treatment of addiction, the pain formulations are microgram dosages whereas dosages for addiction come in and are prescribed in higher dosage strengths. Just because the only current indication for Suboxone/Subutex is for the treatment of opioid dependence, that doesn't mean that more and more Dr's aren't finding it beneficial in treating chronic pain especially in patients with addiction issues and even some who haven't displayed addiction issues; it's called an off-label use and is perfectly legal.

It's not in your head, people aren't completely free of pain on Suboxone, but then again most aren't completely free of pain even on large and ever-increasing dosages of morphine or oxycodone after prolonged use but patients find that pain is bearable on steady-state Suboxone and the person is finding themselves doing things that they weren't able to do on full-agonists as they were too incapacitated by the opioid effect, had little ambition and were on the verge of withdrawal with regularity in many cases.

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