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 Post subject: MAJOR ISSUE, PLZ HELP!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:33 pm 
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With no introduction I'm just going to state my problem. I moved overseas from the states to Lebanon. Back in the states I was on a subutex maintenance program and it kept me clean for over a year. When I moved here I could not find subutex, suboxone or methadone anywhere, they simply do not import it in this country. Naturally I relapsed and my entire world fell apart. It's been over a year now i'm back to doing heroin, i'm shooting at the very least 2-3 grams daily. I cannot keep going like that, I really need to get back on subutex and I really don't know how to get it. I still have siblings in the states whom can send the pills for me but no doctor is willing to perscribe subutex to a patient he hasn't met. Anybody has any kind of idea?

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I doubt you will find a doctor to prescribe to you by mail without seeing you at least once in person. And I have no idea if it's even legal to send prescription drugs by mail internationally.

Maybe these people can help you: Menahra

They are the Middle-East North-African Harm Reduction Network. From googling around a bit, it looks like they have (or had) a Suboxone program in Beirut recently. Maybe they can help you find help.

The addiction-treatment center where the Suboxone program in Beirut was located is url=http://www.skoun.org/index.html]Skoun[/url] I don't know if they still have the Sub program there, it's not on the website. But they might be able to help you if you contact them. Maybe they have MMT there. Can't hurt to ask, right?

Suboxone is not the only way to get clean. Abstinence is much harder, but if that's the only help you can get, you have to at least try. Let us know what you find.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:12 am 
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In my opinion, you need more than what Buprenorphine can provide for you. Below I have posted a website that is full of links pertaining to Methadone on a international basis. See if any of them can help you and let us know what happens!
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I very much appreciate it bro, I contacted this organization a week ago and we've been working together ever since. But, we haven't gotten anywhere yet. The organization has and still is working on starting an OST program into the country for years but they haven't succeeded. I met with the Director a couple times and we're treating my case as an invididual case and trying to import the suboxone/methadone for me personally but nothing is working so far. I always ODed two days ago and got arrested again a couple days ago. I can't wait anymore, I need to start on the medicine ASAP because honestly I don't know whether I'll be alive tomorrow, a week or a month frorm now. I've already had a major overdose and got arrested since I started working with the Menhra directly. I don't think I should keep waiting on this organization to help me start the maintenance program. The directly promissed me that in a couple months the program will exist for fact and that i'll be be backed by the government, but can he assure me I'll be alive a couple months from now? I honestly don't think so, I hit rock bottom a long time ago and I don't know how lower I can sink. Anyhow, I truly hope I'd still be here by the time a fully operational OSP exists. On the other hand, what's another dead kid in this messed up country where addiction is considered a choice taken by addicts and relapsing is also a choice made by addicts, as if we enjoy not able of getting out of bed before we cook up and shoot up. Unfortunetly for people like me, the tyrant politicians of this survival of the fittest jungle haven't found a way to make money off OST, untill then I don't think we'll see a methadone maintaince program anytime soon. Anyhow, thanks you for caring and replying


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Friend i'm very thankful you took the time to do the research but I don't seem to find anything relvent on this site or simply i'm not looking hard enough. I'm just in serious pain right now and i can barely sit on the computer for more than 5 minutes, I went cold turky and i'm starting have seizures. My ignorant parents thinks i'm being a "cry baby". They have no clue what a horrible thing are physical withdrawals from heroin and how dangerous they are when you go cold turkey after you've been shooting up for almost a decade around 3-4 grams a day. I just wish i could go back to the States because I just see nothing in my future here other than either death or prison (you ever heard about middle eastern prisons and what goes inside. Well I grew up in Tampa i'm not excatly cut out for Middle Eastern prisons?)


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DUDE!!! u cant do this alone all by urself. from my experience if i had been alone i would have killed myself. pleeease if nothing else-cant you go to a hospital or something? im not familiar with where you are or how in general the healthcare is and this might sound childish but if nothing else i would go to a hospital and tell them if they dont help you that you think you might commit suicide. you need help and i always try to put myself in the others shoes and if i didnt have the help from my parents or anyone else, i think i would have to go to that extreme. i can hardly imagine being in a foreign country and feeling that desperate, helpless and alone but i have no idea what else to tell you except if it is possible and thats the only resource you have PLEASE GO!! this also may sound a little irresponsible but if your stuck and you have to do it on your own maybe try to get some valium, ativan,xannax,clonipin,clonidine or trazadone (if benzos havent been a problem for you) the only reason i say this is because they will help with all your withdrawl symptoms but mostly i worry about the depression. what i mean is one drug or another and only as they would be prescribed and i would only do this so i was well enough to get up and find a counselor or some type of program to get into. please be strong and even though it doesnt feel like it-it can only get better from here as long as your making an effort!-sara


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Believe me when I tell you I've exhausted every treatment method available here. Nothing worked. I consulted every psychiatrist specialist in addiction, about 10 of them; at some period they were prescribing me Leponex (similar to respiridal and chlorpomasine) to slow down my neurological activity a bit plus Seroquel (similar to Lamictal) to stabilize my mood in addiction to clonazepam for anxiety and Remerom for depression. I took those medicines for at least 7 months non stop and they did not help me the least bit. Then came the psychologists turn, I worked with different psychologists, I tried cognitive drug therapy which is a loss of them and I also try psychoanalysis which helped me under why I’m addicted but did not help me control my addiction. Then I decided to go all natural and do an in-patient rehab without any medication. I signed myself into a center and spent 8 months there, the day I got out I went and bought Heroin before I go see my parents. Then I tried the solitude life, I rented a cabinet in the woods and left my car in the city, I could not get drugs while in the cabinet no matter how hard I try, I was clean the entire time I was in the cabinet ( around 6 month) then the day I came back home I relapsed again. Besides, Heroin is unbelievably available and cheap here, it’s 15$ a gram.
So, I think the picture is pretty obvious, my problem isn’t stopping, I can stop anytime I want but my problem is that I always relapse a week, a month or a couple months later. You were kidding when you said I should threaten to kill myself in the hospital so they would help me but at this point it seems a really good idea because either way I’m either going to end up dead from an overdose or go to prison and honestly I’d kill myself before going back to prison. I am truly convinced that I’ll never be able to quit, that’s it for me, a maintenance program is my last shot otherwise I have to accept the fact that I’ll be using my entire life. Luckily my parents are supporting me and helping me out with anything I need, I was able to get Subutex and Suboxone in the states lately but there’s nobody coming to Lebanon to bring them with him. I don’t know how much more I can take. The only crime in suicide lies in the disregard of whom we leave behind.
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please let us know that ur ok!!


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Well I'm fine, as expected I relapsed 2 days ago. I think I did a good job thou, I last more than a week this week. Anyways, I was able to get the subutex from the U.S and from France but they are still over there; I can't seem to find anybody to bring them with him to Lebanon for me. International Mail in out of the question, all medication entering the country have to go thru the Ministry of Public Health and it'll take them a month to approve the medication coming into the country; it must come in inside the bag of somebody entering the country. But no worries, I'm fine, whenever I put my shotgun in my mouth I think how wonderful shooting up felt and it gives me reasons to live again and I take the barrel out of my mouth.


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im glad that ur ok. ur going to keep using in the meantime anyway so y dont u just have someone mail it. yes it might take a while but if u can get it on a more permanent basis why not try, like i said u say ur going to use anyway until u find someone to bring it to u so why not. if u do recieve the subs and u really r ready to do this then thats only one step. u can attend online n.a. meetings and always attend the meetings here and talk to all of us. surround urself with ''clean'' people. i know thats its almost impossible to do alone with no meds but u have to be ready to do this ya know!? please keep me posted. ur story really touched me!! i want u to do this, i know that u can!!!


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