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 Post subject: Lidocaine problems
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:10 pm 
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Hi family! So I need a wisdom tooth out and finally had my appointment today. I have a paralyzing fear of needles and today was a nightmare. Dentist gave me a shot. Everything numbed but when he worked I could feel the nerve, like electricity. He gave me another shot. Same thing. This went on four times, by this time my anxiety is through the roof I was shaking so bad, i was making the whole chair shake. left with no tooth pulled, all those terrible shots for nothing. This happened only once before, the rest of many numbing procedures,I had no problem. Both of these times I was on suboxone. Of course I've read many times that sub doesn't block this, and I'm hoping is just a coincidence?

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 Post subject: Re: Lidocaine problems
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:25 pm 
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My dentist uses Nitrous Oxide, with local did a full root canal without any problem.
There is no interaction between Buprenorphine and local anesthetics such as lidocaine.
Maybe he would be open to letting you pre-treat with valium an hour before the next visit. You would need a driver of course.
Was it an upper wisdom tooth? They can have tricky anatomy for getting the nerve blocked effectively.


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 Post subject: Re: Lidocaine problems
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:41 pm 
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I think the lidocaine is usually mixed with epinephrine, so no wonder you shook!

I don't want to scare anyone, but I have a terrible story involving the same kind of thing. I was getting a root canal and they were giving me shot after shot of lidocaine because they couldn't get that right side of my lower jaw to numb properly. They were moving the needle to a bunch of different areas to numb my back molar.

Two days later I went to bed with a painful sharp ache behind my right ear. By the time I got to church the next morning my eye would not blink and my mouth on the right side would not move. I had Bell's Palsy. The right side of my face was paralyzed. Now, the motor nerve that allows movement to that part of the face shouldn't be anywhere near the nerve they were trying to numb and I'm sure that my experience is not typical. The paralysis lasted about 3 months. I don't know why some of us are hard to numb! I'm sorry your experience was so rough!

Oh! And my experience with this was years before I was on buprenorphine or doing any drugs.

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Had a filling just last week with absolutely no problem. the dentist had to go back and numb a little more but I thing that was due to her waiting so long before returning to the room after she numbed me up the first time. Sorry about your experience Pug Mama.


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 Post subject: Re: Lidocaine problems
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Hey pugmommy!! I'm a lionheadrabbitmommy now lol!

When I had all my wisdom teeth removed, the doctor put me in a 'twilight state' or whatever that's called. I felt nothing until I was totally alert again. I didn't feel anything or wake up.... maybe ask about that. I've had a couple back teeth removed since I've been on suboxone and it went fine also. But I do remember telling my wonderful dentist that I could still feel a little pain, so he gave me several shots. There's a ton of pressure that's involved with getting a normal tooth pulled, regardless of numbing shots, ur still going to feel some pressure.... at least I did. But the twilight state eliminated all that.

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 Post subject: Re: Lidocaine problems
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Thank you all for replying. Yesterday was a complete mental nightmare for me. The specialist that I was referred to can't get me in til end of April. They just called and want me in tomorrow afternoon! I can't go through this again so soon! Jennjenn ill have to look up lionheadrabbit!

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Hi guys! Ya, deff not suboxone blocking. Went to as oral surgeon today, numbed just fine. Thank you for responding

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Awesome news pugmommy! I bet ur 100% relieved now aren't ya, I know I was. That relief knowing it's over with and the pain(except from post care) is in the past, u can't beat that!

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My wife just had a back tooth pulled and the Novocain made her jittery. There must be something in it we don't know about. She is very sensitive to any stimulants due to past anxiety issues. Luckily it all passes.

Glad it worked out for ya!

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 Post subject: Re: Lidocaine problems
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Like I said, Rule, I think that lidocaine is often dosed with epinephrine. Apparently epinephrine potentiates the lidocaine. That's most likely why she became jittery.

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