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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Hey Lilly not hijacking your idea but i saw your post and wanted to start a thread for it.

So if you knew that the world was going to end and were going to die would we say f%$& it and get high one last time? My honest answerer would be yes. I would have nothing to lose so why not get to feel the one feeling that i love more than anything on planet earth? I hope you guys dont think less of me but im being honest and true to myself because i would be lying if i said no. I know in my heart that ive worked so hard to get clean so if i died i would know i truly died clean even if i got high one last time and some may disagree with that but I know in my heart the truth. Because i wouldnt or ever get high if 'i was here on earth living happily healthy and well.

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I'd say no.

(a) Because using feels well and truly behind me at this moment.
(b) Because I'd like to know that I've gone out of this world having won the big battle of my lifetime - the battle against my addiction.

I'd even go one step further and say that, if I knew the world was coming to an end, I'd likely taper off Suboxone while allowing myself time to withdraw before the big date came. Because I'd like to face my death knowing that I beat Suboxone dependence as well.


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Great topic!!

I think peoples' replies will probably be based on their religious views, but I am going to assume that everyone knew for a 100% that the world was going to end and not have any optimism. If you believe in a life after death, then I would think that they would opt to not get high because it will affect them for the rest of eternity, unless your religious views aren't effects by this.

If you don't believe in an afterlife then I'd think they most would get high unless they were so far past their using day and truly don't want to use or because they would lose out on time to do other things. I think it'd really depend on your current thoughts of using or cravings of any kind.

Personally, being fully honest, I agree with you Bboy that I would have nothing to lose and would use. Side effects don't matter in this situation because everything would come to an end either way of anyone's decision.


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If I knew for sure the world was gonna end on 12/21/2012, starting this instant I'd be the highest dude this side of the Mississippi for the next 32 days, no question about it!!

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I believe in a after life personally but I don't think god would judge me cause I went out with a bang! But I def see we're u coming from fireman! And TJ I can def understand your reasoning especially beating suboxone before you passed on. And that really made me think that I would like to feel what life is like without methadone and or suboxone for you guys. Just to know what that feels like one last time. It's been 14 years since I've been 100% free of all drugs as in medications and recreational drugs, it's been so long I don't even remember how that feels.

And after thinking about this being that I'm on methadone a full agonist plays a role as in why I said yes. If I was still on suboxone I might have a different view on things being its a partial antagonist. But being I'm not methadone is no different than my DOC chemically structured, being the only difference methadone doesn't get me high. Thanks for sharing guys.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:25 pm 
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I know this is addictive thinking and glad it is make beleive..........but absolutely I would be in Vegas with two beautiful women, a half gallon of Crown Royal and 120 Loratabs, percocets and some oxycotin.............oh.....and maybe some CIALIS...LOL......Instead I would be afraid just like the Millenium............I would wake up the next day and then my life would be full of guilt and shame..........We all have had using dreams and some of them are so realistic that we actually believed we did relapse.......Unfortunately I would go out the weak man I became during my active addiction.......

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I wouldn't because I would want to be present in every single moment of that short ass time. Be with family etc.. Maybe sky dive, bungee jump, ski k2 in my underwear. ..


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Bboy42287 wrote:
And after thinking about this being that I'm on methadone a full agonist plays a role as in why I said yes. If I was still on suboxone I might have a different view on things being its a partial antagonist. But being I'm not methadone is no different than my DOC chemically structured, being the only difference methadone doesn't get me high. Thanks for sharing guys.


Man I dunno whether Sub and methadone are THAT much different. People say "Sub is only half an agonist" etc etc. But once you're on a stable dose of methadone it doesn't get ya high, and Suboxone is no different. Both get you high if you have no tolerance. I found methadone had more side-effects, but some people say the same about Sub.

Anyway back to the world ending and stuff.


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I would love to go out high as a kite, but I would need to be with my kids, and in order to actually "be there" with them I wouldn't be able to get wasted.

I have to admit, though, with the holidays coming and the dysfunctional family coming over this week I've been seriously thinking about getting high.


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ReRaise wrote:
I know this is addictive thinking and glad it is make beleive..........but absolutely I would be in Vegas with two beautiful women, a half gallon of Crown Royal and 120 Loratabs, percocets and some oxycotin.............oh.....and maybe some CIALIS...LOL......Instead I would be afraid just like the Millenium............I would wake up the next day and then my life would be full of guilt and shame..........We all have had using dreams and some of them are so realistic that we actually believed we did relapse.......Unfortunately I would go out the weak man I became during my active addiction.......

Jim



Man using dreams can be scary as hell but for some reason it's always marijuana. And I'm going to lose my take homes and see how much I let down my counselor. But I do have opiate using dreams too! I can see we're your coming from TJ but with methadone we can get high if we take more so I guess that's what I was preferring to by full vs partial. Lilly I can relate in being stressed about the holidays but when the thought of getting high comes use the same concept of how u answered this thread u need to there for your kids. No better motivation than that!

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[font=Comic Sans MS]Wow, this question brings on a whole slew of answers for me. I would definitely want to be there for my son.
No doubt about it. I would go see my daughters in Georgia, who I haven't been able to see in 4 years. I would
have to, and want to be , as sober as a judge to do all of this. I would want to experience what it was like to actually
hold my little girls again, without it being numbed by drugs. To feel their little arms around my neck, and to be able to hear
them laugh...and to kiss their cheeks, and well...you know....I don't want to cry....So, the short answer for me would be a
definite no.
I'd go out of this world clean. Wthout a doubt.

Good topic Bboy and Lily![/font]

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I haven't been on much lately... just seen this tho and thought it was such a great question and after thinking about it for a bit... YEP! I'd allow myself one last time! I have a little girl that I'd want to hold tight and be in a sober, straight state of mind for until the end. Like Lily and Kelly said, I'd need to be sober to actually be there for her, enjoy her, hold her, feel her... I'd need to be sober to enjoy the last days with my husband, my mom and my dad, but yes, I would take one day for myself and take a shit ton of hydros and/or norcos and just enjoy that feeling...

But, I don't believe that the world is going to end on December 21st or anytime soon, so I will just continue taking my suboxone... LOL

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