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 Post subject: Here we go
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:41 am 
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So the start of day 1 off buprenorphine. I have been on suboxone for about 7 years, started at 32mg and self tapered to 8mg about a year ago. I like most people in this forum have gotten my self together and getting of this med is the last step. My sub doc is pretty liberal and for the last 2 months has let let me taper on butrans buprenorphine patch 20 microgram per hour and them down to a 10 microgram per hour which works out to about 240 micrograms or .24 mg a day. I tore off my patch last night and do not feel too bad as of this morning. Have clonadine to help w/any issues that may arise. Looks like most people have been pretty successful jumping from a .25 mg dose. Keeping my attitude positive.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:45 am 
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Forgot to add, didn't sleep great last night, so went to gym. I can tell exercise will be key to keeping anxiety down and a positive attitude.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:58 am 
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Hi KS, congrats on your jump, I'm on day 21 and its totally worth

Exercise is important, so is nutrition. When I'm on my laptop later, I'll post a link of recommended supplements.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:00 am 
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Thanks, I did get some l tyrosine and will see if it helps.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:13 pm 
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Hi Kitty, welcome to the forum!!

Jumping from .25mg should not be too bad at all. The Clonidine will help and like you said, exercise will, too. Hot baths or showers will make you feel great, listen to your favorite music, as well. Music will make you feel better.

Do whatever you can to keep your mind and body occupied. Sitting around while in wd is not good. Sitting around only allows your mind to focus on your wd.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:43 pm 
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Thank you all, I def need to find something to do today. I have a week off work, but today it might have been easier to be there to just be doing something.


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Hey there Kittyspot and welcome!
Congrats on your taper and jump! Way to go!!
Your wdls may get a bit worse before they start getting better, but totally manageable. You will be just fine! For me, day 2 was roughest, then got better from there! Day 22 sub free today for me (after 8 Years, jumped from .375), and I feel really truly 'well'.
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Here's the link I promised, there's some interesting stuff here:

http://www.medhelp.org/tags/health_page ... s?hp_id=55

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:37 pm 
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Kitty, something as simple as going out for a walk will help occupy your mind. Get outside, feel the sun on your face. Smell the fresh air.

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Just got back from a 45 min bike ride, it definitely helped. I am occasionally get a little good feeling throughout the day, and I can't help but wonder if the low tapers sometimes actually prolong the nag feelings. Of course I am only on day 1 and do not want to get too cocky. I am using the l-tyrosine for energy and am using a juicer to include kale, celery,cucumber, green apple juice in my diet. Hope things stay on the up side. Thanks for the kind words all.


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Cool, a 45 minute bike ride is GREAT!!

The biggest trick to minimizing wd is to stay busy. Your body will probably scream at you at times to sit down and wallow in self pity, but you have to resist that urge and use the tools at your disposal (music, hot showers, exercise, the great outdoors, etc) to fight through wd. Glad you have your nutrition in order, too....that will only help you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:51 pm 
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It's about 8pm now and night time is def not as fun. Def bored and nothing sounds fun right now. I don't feel horrible, but def not the same as Sub days of past. I know sleep will prob be difficult as it was always the worst during the several detoxes years ago from Oxys. This is definitely much better than a full agonist opiate w/d though. Keeping my head up though and thanks to all.


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Hey kitty.. Like you said, working out is soo important. Keep pushing yourself!! G-luck :o


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:19 am 
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Morning all, it's 7am and day 2 and sleep was not as bad yet as expected. Was definitely broken into little 2 hr chunks though.
I am tired though and don't feel like doing crap at this point. Will have coffee and try to motivate to do something as I know it will make me feel better.
So far even if things got twice as bad as they are now , I would count myself lucky and am wondering why I did not get off Sub a while ago.
Have a good day all and so far all is better than I expected.


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Morning, Kitty.

Suboxone wd is not as intense as full agonist opiate wd, but Suboxone wd does seem to go on a bit longer.

As for the lack of motivation, that's pretty normal. You have a choice of either sitting there and letting your brain focus on your symptoms which will more than likely amplify them or you can get yourself in gear and find something to do, anything. Go for a drive even.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:42 am 
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Just having a moment of clarity as I look at the number of people coming to this site, (in the hundreds of thousands) many I presume are frustrated by being anchored to this med. I am by no means anti Sub, as it was very useful in helping me get off my DOC and get my crud together. I do wish that Sub doctors would give more info to patients regarding options in treatment that do not , at least in my case seem to lean on high dose treatment (more than 8mg per day) for multiple years. I had to go to a second MD to even have the idea of tapering off this med to even be considered. I know long term high dosage of Sub, while not damaging the old brain, def in my case has had significant side effects. The one that really comes to mind is the natural endorphins rush from running, cycling etc. I have not felt that since going on Sub and really look forward to that lost feeling. Anyway enough of the rant, gave my mind something to do for a few minutes. I better get moving as the desire to lay on the couch all day is getting stronger by the minute :)


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 Post subject: Re: Here we go
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:14 pm 
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Better late than never but did get out for bike ride, but not much energy on ride. Self more relaxed back at home though. I am really craving junk food for some reason, but trying to avoid all the sugar and processed flour I so crave. All in all still feeling much better than I thought I would. Definitely still glad I stopped at this point.


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