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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:21 pm 
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Hi everyone !
I've been on Percocets for 8 yrs. I was taking 30mg every 4 hours. Unfortunately, I became addicted and my "month supply" only lasted a week or so. Then I'd suffer through withdrawal or buy some from friends. Anyway, two weeks after my doctor gave me my prescription, he called me in to do a pill count and urine test. I had no more, and surely there wasn't any traces of opiates in my system. I paniced, and told them I can't get in today. When I called to make an appointment, the secretary told me that my doctor (of 21 years) can no longer provide medical help for me. This was 2 days before my next refill (ouch).
I've been researching Suboxone for the past few days. Watched hundreds of video's on Youtube (it's how I found this site) and I'm VERY interested in trying it.
The only concern I have is I've been reading it won't work unless you're in withdrawal. And then it says, "usually 3-4 days after your last dose". I stopped about 10 days ago, but I assure you, I'm still withdrawing. BAD. Will they not put me on Suboxone because of this ?
Also, I'm calling tomorrow morning to make an appointment. Before I get too excited, is it possible that they're no longer accepting new patients, or not get an appointment for awhile ?
Anyway, your support would greatly help. This is the hardest thing I had to do. And of course, being this sick and in pain from withdrawal makes me want my Percocet back
Nice to meet you all. And thanks


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Most doctors will put you on the program......this medicine is for opiate dependence or addiction. The reason they want it out of your system for 18 to 24 hrs is becasue it can cause you to go into precipitated withdrawls. The hard part will be finding a docotor that prescribes suboxone. If you have already found one that is great. If not you have some options....NAABT.com, Suboxone directory, Suboxone.com or at the top of this page there is a doctor locator.

Now do not be surprised if you cant find one that takes insurance. There are alot that take cash only and it can be expensive. I called 28 doctors in Charlotte and found only 2 that take insurance......they both had major waiting list. The others ranged from $600 for induction to $75 to $200 per monthly visit......if you don't have insurance the pills range from $6 to $8 each....I am not trying to discourage you just preparing you for what you might discover. I recommend you look at the physician locator on this site as they are sub docs that people on this forum use and can give you a little background.
It is discouraging because depending on where you live there may not be alot of doctors in your area that can prescribe it.

No matter the cost this medication has changed my life dramatically.......no more lying, cheating, stealing and has allowed me to get my life back on track. Suboxone alone is not the cure......we recommend counseling, therapy or 12 step program to help you move on with your life and deal with any guilt or shame you may have from your addiction or dependence.

I hope you already found a doctor and all works well. Stay in touch with us and let us know how it goes and share with us any questions or concerns you have. This way of life is so much better. Good luck..

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Hi blue and welcome. This is a great site for support and information. Like ReRaise said, you should still be able to be put on suboxone. Like us, you'll find it will change your life drastically - for the better! I can honestly say it saved my life.
I hope you can get an appointment quickly and get started right away. Until then, please stick around and keep us posted on how you're doing. I know it's terribly difficult where you're at right now. Hang tough...You can do this.

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Thanks, guys !! Nice to meet ya !! I found a place that takes my insurance, I just hope they can take me right away. I DO live in the boonies, so it's about a 2 hour drive. How often will I need to go ?
And thanks for your concern !!


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Wow that is great......
Usually the induction happens and you come back in one week........if all is well you come back in two weeks. Then most doctors only require you to come in once a month. I had to sign a contract that I would not use any othr drugs, make myself available for pill counts and UA's. I have to come in once a month and he will not budge. However some doctors will allow you to come once a month and they may write you refills for 3 months but as a general rule most doctors make you come once a month. But since your doctor takes insurance you may get lucky and only have to go once every 3 months. Hope you can get an appointment.......be sure to tell them you are in w/d and would be willing to be on a call list if anyone cancels.

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Hey Blue :)
First off welcome! I so feel for you right now, I can honestly say that I know exactly what you're going through and it really does make my heart ache for you. I remember my last visit to my doctor before I went into treatment and then eventually started Suboxone maintenance. I had already talked the Dr. into rewritting my scripts once that month after I told them I had gotten tired of taking my pain meds and flushed them down the toilet (lol yeah write I wonder how many times those Docs hear that one rofl!) then after blowing through all of those as well in less than several days I tried to talk the office into doing it again! Well as you might well assume that was like the last straw for them. I remember hearing her (the Dr.) say "I'm sorry Matt but I simply cannot continue treating you for pain, it's obvious that you have a problem and you're just going to have to detox on your own!" I was at that point in a state of shock and literally hung up the phone without even being able to respond. I was totally out of cash I no one else to steal from and then worst of all I had essentially sealed my fate as being permanently branded a drug abuser by my Dr. and there was no way I could ever find another pain specialist who wouldn't find out I was an addict as I knew my Dr. had written such on my medical records that would have to follow me to whatever other clinic I could have been transferred/moved to.

Now I wish I could say that I started treatment after deciding I no longer wanted to use but the reality is that my single motivation for admitting myself to the detox center was for comfort meds as I was incredibly sick from withdrawals. Anywho I was out in a week and managed to stay clean for the next 4 months through using a 12 step program but I soon decided to go on Suboxone maintenance as my constant feelings of wanting to use were not going away and I was suffering some longer acting withdrawal symptoms and PAWS (post accute withdrawal syndrome) such as extreme sleep deprivation, severe depression, anxiety, and severe bone pain among others. I'll never forget the first day I started on Suboxone! I felt like I had finally been released from the stranglehold opiate addiction had on me! I slept for nearly 11hours that night and for the first time in months I woke up feeling rested. I even had the time and mental stamina required to get back into a couple of my favorite pre-opiate addiction hobbies like running, golf, gaming, and I even started with regular workouts again. I realize that individuals have varying degrees of success with all forms of opiate addiction treatment but Suboxone completely turned off my crazy cravings for opiates and without those cravings I was free to go on about my life again!

Just a couple more things: first off it was actually not too difficult for me to find a Dr. who prescribes Suboxone and he also accepts the more major forms of insurance such as Anthem/BlueCross/Wellpoint but this is in Indianapolis so if you happen to live in a more rural area it may take you being willing to drive a little ways to see a Subox Dr. Also my Dr. is relatively inexpensive compared to others charging only like $190 something for my induction and $60 subsequent visit. After 1year of clean drug screens he allowed me to only have to come and see him once every 2 months and then when my parent's health insurance dropped me because of my age he lowered my bi-monthly exam cost to only $50 and he allowed me to switch from Suboxone which can cost somewhere around $7-$8 a tablet to the generic Subutex tablets that can cost from $3-$5 per tablet (best price I've found was at Sam's Club for 30ct. 8mg tabs $89.80) so now even without insurance it's at least reasonably affordable. And well ultimately as has already been mentioned the price of continuing to use drugs illicitly can be much more costly than Suboxone maintenance/treatment. Using can be so expensive in fact that many are forced to pay with their very lives.

Well Blue I'll be thinking about you and I sincerely hope that things turn out well for you :) Oh and one more thing, all that was required for me to begin Suboxone/bupe treatment was to schedule an appointment with the Dr. and then I went and told him my story. I had not been using for the 4 months previous to the appointment so I wasn't required to test positive for opiates or anything else. So if I were you I'd just try and setup an as soon as possible and at least get the ball rolling if there's a waiting list. In the mean time if you've made it 10 days off of oxycodone and without other opiates I'd try to stick with it until you start on Suboxone (if that's what you end up choosing to do that is). The number one comfort med that always did wonders for helping me through withdrawal was loperamide/Immodium. Most generic forms are fairly cheap and the dose can be titrated depending on results. The reason it helps so much is that loperamide is in fact an opiate however, it does not cross the blood brain barrier so there's really no reason to worry about psychological addiction as there are no feelings of euphoria produced after the medication is ingested instead the loperamide will bind to the opiate receptors in the rest of your body to help relieve digestive problems, restless legs, and even to a certain extent insomnia. It's important to also keep in mind that if one has built up a tolerance to opiates then because of "cross tolerance" loperamide will have no greater of an effect on constipation than another opiate equivalent dose of hydrocodon for example.

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