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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:36 am 
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Hello all, I am new here and i live in canada. I have been addicted to percosets and oxycontin for six years, I would take about six to eight percosets a day and use oxys about seven or eight times a month. I have arthritis in my jaws and rheumatoid arthritis in my feet. I have never had a history of dependence in my medical history, but for some reason could never get any of my doctors to prescribe pain killers for me, my husband did get them though and fortunately for him he couldnt care less if he had them or not! So i took his. This bothered him but he let it slide as i have trouble eating anything but soft foods and dont walk very well. It was still taking a toll on my marriage and i was fed up with the trouble it was causing and agreed that i would stop taking them, and i have for a month now. I went to my dr. two days after i stopped taking them, he did a urine sample and asked me to do a blood test that required me to fast for twelve hours. He has offtered me no help. I called the local methadone clinic and they told me it would be amonth before i could see a dr. and quite frankly i think the methadone would be to much for me, from what i have read as for the amounts people have taken with opiod addictions my daily dose was pretty low but constant. I have done the damage though. I am getting no relief except for a friend of my husbands who is fromt he states. Now i no this is not proper but he has given me three suboxone tablets at different times just to give me a bit of relief and it does help sooooo much, for a day i feel normal and that is all i want. This drug is available in canada but I dont know where to go. Our friend told me to ask my dr. to send me to a pain management specialist, is this correct. I am very ready to relapse, i cant take being sick anymore, I have no desire to get high, i just dont want to be sick. I have read where it is dangerous to just go off opiods. I have been having heart palpitating, sweats, dizzyness (very bad)nauseated well just all the usual and its not going away, my problem is the amount of time its going to take to get help and what i am going through in the mean time. I have missed time from work for being sick. Should i have stayed on them until or close to the time i get help. Aswell if there is any Canadians reading this any advice on finding a dr. in central ontario and how to go about getting this drug that i know is a life saver. I have never bought these off dealers and wouldnt know where to go anyway, but if it is to keep my health and my mental health stable until i find treatment should i ask my husband for just enough to stave off the sickness until i get it? I am not asking anyone to condone me getting high, i dont want to anymore, just no more sickness until i find the right dr. There is no dr. finder for canada, i have searched, getting dr.s here is hard and mine cant even prescribe narcotics as he runs a clinic for people who have no dr. aswell as regular patients like myself and the clinics here are not allowed to prescribe narcotics. I have no intentions of lying to anyone about these pills or my needs anymore, i am sick of that. I dont drink or use pot. I have not turned to anything else to ease this horrible withdrawl but i cant take much more. I am a middle class working mother and would look wierd trying to buy them off the streets lol. Sorry for rambling but its nice just to say these things and i am so glad this site is here, thanks so much for reading and any advice for me or my husband is very welcome , he is a big part of my effort , he doesnt want me sick or using but i just dont want to be sick until i get help. I know if i can get it i will have a much better chance. Thank you!


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Hi mickey!

I am sorry to hear about your struggles, and I hope that you can find some help here. There are many people on this forum that developed addictions through taking medications for pain relief. I think that you will get some great advice around here!

In my opinion, your pain issue is too pertinent to ignore, or to not be medicated (although I am no doctor), and I think that if Suboxone works well for your pain, then that is something that you should absolutely look into pursuing as a pain management option. I would say that yes, you should see a pain management doctor and inform them about your history with addiction, and let them know that you would like to treat your pain with Suboxone as opposed to a full agonist narcotic. I doubt that you should have much trouble acquiring the Suboxone at all. However, if you are having problems finding a pain management doctor, then yes, you should absolutely seek help for your addiction with Suboxone.

I am an American, so unfortunately, I have no idea what the situation is in Canada as far as Suboxone is concerned. I do know that it is used to treat opiate addiction there, and that there are many people that are taking it in Canada. It was VERY easy for me to find help here, so I can assume that it shouldn't be too difficult for you to find a doctor, either. There is a doctor locator on the Suboxone website at Suboxone.com, but I am not sure whether or not that one covers Canada as well, as the website seems to be down at this time. If you cannot find help online, then I would suggest that you simply ask your doctor, or just call up a random doctor and ask if they prescribe buprenorphine for the treatment of opiate addiction, and if that particular doctor does not, then ask them to direct you to one who does. I am sure that you can find one with minimal effort. Just don't give up!

As far as Methadone goes, I don't think that it's quite necessary for you to go that route as it would probably just make you high as a kite. If you get on the right dose of Suboxone, then even if you do experience a high initially, it will subside over a few days, or if you lower your dose. I think that methadone would be a bit of overkill in your situation, however, if you cannot find treatment with buprenorphine, then perhaps methadone would be something for you to consider, or if Suboxone for whatever reason didn't seem to work for you, or cover all of your pain issues.

Start calling some doctors and see what you can come up with! I know that treatment with Suboxone IS offered in Canada, and that there are many Canadians that take the medication every day, so it is certainly possible. Good luck, and I hope that you can find the help that you need before you run out of medication that keeps you well. If there is anything that I or anyone else can to do help you, please let us know! Keep us updated on your situation :)

Edit- sorry for such a long post! I just wanted to comment on you asking your husband for meds to keep you well until you can get help. I don't see anything wrong with it, and surely he would rather give you the meds than see you go through a kick! I think that as long as he isn't using them, and you need them to hold you over until you can obtain an appointment, then there isn't anything wrong with that, although others may disagree with me. I know that I can't stand to see someone in that sort of state (withdrawal), and that I may very well give a person something to help them out if they were kicking.


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Hi Mickey,

I apologize for not posting sooner, did not see this! I am a Canadian, also from Ontario and I wish I had better news for you, but it seems to be very difficult to find a doctor in Ontario to prescribe Sub. I am on Suboxone and it has literally savedmy life. I searched for a doctor for over ayear, before finally just breaking down at my own family doctor and asking him to prescribe me Sub. Ihad already spoken to my pharmacist who said hecould get it if my doc prescribed it for pain. Anyway I did talk my doctor in to it, butbecause he did not know a thing about it, I am basically on my own as far as dosing and anything else.

I know that the Suboxone company is working on finding doctors in Ontario to work with them and they are supposed to come up with a doc matching system by January. Anyway, I do know that there area few doctors in Toronto and 1in Ottawa, and they are all prescribing the same way as methadone. You have to go every day for thefirst 3 months, which really sucks if you live far from these clinics.

Anyway, I have to go to work, so I will post more when I get home.

Ginger


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Hello,

My family is from Ottawa but in live in the states. My cousin is an RN in Ottawa. I think she told me that Suboxone for substance abuse treatment is not covered in Ontario under the provincial medical coverage. If you could find an MD who would rx it to you for pain, that would be great. I was on Methadone several years ago, but I was on it for pain and it would always say on the rx: "for pain". For this reason I could just go to the pharmacy and get a month supply and never had to go to a Methadone clinic. (Methadone is a hefty drug, and once I was on it, the w/d s were awful and I had a heck of a time getting off.) If you could get some MD to rx Bupenorphine to you for pain, that would be the ticket for you in your circumstances.

If you have the money, what about coming to Watertown or the closest border town and seeing if an MD in New York can help you? I know it's a long trip but for me it would be worth every mile. Do you have any relatives in the US? The problem with doing this is that you would have to pay cash for everything but it almost sounds like you might have to do this anyway.

I take Suboxone for opiate dependence but also for chronic pain, and it does help.

If I were you, and this is just my opinion, I would ask my husband to help and also ask him to administer the pills to you. I cannot be trusted to take any opiate medication as directed, as evidenced by a huge debaucle that I just went through with them. Things would have been much easier for me if I had asked my husband to dole them out to me, but nooooo.... as always, I wanted to do it myself. The results were disastrous.

Keep trying, and I hope that you will find the help that you need.

Sincerely,
Rossma


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Thankyou so much for your replies and advice. I am going to book another appointment with my dr. to tell him i need more help than what i have got from him and discuss a pain management dr. I quick mentioned the percoset to my husband before work (he still in bed i go earlier than him) I hope he understands. Its been a month and if it wasnt for being sick, i wouldnt ask, like everyone here i just want some normality back, i need to function and go to work and sleep and eat. I was up for two days with no sleep. I am so thankfull that our friend has explained that its the damage that i have caused in the functioning of my brain. I dont want to hurt anybody i just want to feel well.


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hello , well i asked and we had a huge fight and now he is leaving me. I am still sober as of now but its pretty hard. I am so mad at my dr. for doing nothing for me, just wrote stuff down in my permanent medical record and then nothing. Am going back this afternoon with a different attititude.


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