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 Post subject: VALIUM
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:49 pm 
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I just happened to see Valium at this point on a long thread. Some discussion of addictive - and it really is. This is not an opinion - I have been tapering for many years from a high dose, and am having a particularly hard time right now because the dr. reduced the amt from 6mg/day to 3mg and soon 2.

It was once 40 and more. This reduction comes at a time when I am trying to reduce Bup from 24mg /day to a much lower number, maybe quickly. It rose in response to Valium W/D I believe. Whatever the attribution, the W/D seems to be constant and only relieved by more Valium, which cannot be done. Valium is not much help for anything, but it can be terrible in its absence---as it is now.

It does seem that decreasing Bup to 16 or 12 would help, but maybe not given that Valium is causing such dramatic W/D at these "low" levels. They are not low now. As this string started ---- what of the quick reduction of Bup here.

And later in ----- What about Valium?


They do not go together - or is there some way one might help the other . Right now W/D 24/7.


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 Post subject: TWENTY THOUSAND VIEWS
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:16 pm 
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A view is counted when the title causes a reader to click and read -- interested by the short title.

So here we have "WITHDRAWAL ON 24MG/...." and over 20,000 people read. The average is maybe 500 views.

Something very interesting is going on here and I do not know if it is resolved or answered to the satisfaction of the original

poster or others adding to the convoluted thread. What has been learned?


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I'm not trying to start a debate, I know it's uncommon, but I took xanax on a daily basis for 10 months and never experienced withdrawals. Upon researching it, it is know that a percentage of people do not report experiencing withdrawals. A few years ago I had the information documented and saved for reference but I no longer do.

I would never advise anyone that they won't however, I've always had a strange metabolism concerning a number of substances. I've taken LSD dosages that did nothing to me that had my friends floored, and for the first 5 years I took opiates I could not take more than one single 7.5 Lortab without feeling too sick. I was literally terrified of taking a Lortab 10 for years because it had me on the ground spinning and vomiting and wishing I believed there was a deity to be prayed to.

There are documented and known exceptions. It is not common.


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Well said virtualoklahoman! Some meds affect some people, and some don't. It's that simple. There is no guarantee that a single med will affect everyone the same way. If something has the potential to be habit forming, than I personally would approach with caution, but that in no way means that everyone will become addicted or have withdrawals. I was on valium for a while and stopped with no withdrawals. But some people may have withdrawals. Its dependent on so many variables.

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