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I don't disagree with what you said, Amy, but I wanted to clarify things:

I apologize if what I posted yesterday put Amber or anyone else in an awkward position. That's the last thing I wanted to do. I considered sending her a private message, but I wanted to post it where more folks could see it, and offer their support as well, if they so desired. I was not trying to make anyone feel obligated or coerced into contributing, nor do I see Amber's last post as an attempt to do so. (I get that there are legalities involved...again, sorry if I screwed up in that arena.)

That said, I don't regret getting the conversation started. Amber has been there for so many of us, and I think that--for those of us who wish to--it's a great opportunity return one of the many favors she has done for us.

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Jo, you didn't do or say anything wrong! I was just talking about going forward from here. I just want to make ultra sure that everyone knows that there is NO PRESSURE to donate. I'm glad that you wrote what you did! I just don't want there to be an atmosphere of peer pressure in this thread. I'm in a strange position, because I feel very close to Amber and I want to help her in any way I can. As a moderator, though, I need to make sure that the forum is very balanced and fair. That is the only reason I said anything.

You are being a great friend and a good example of a person who is selfless when it comes to your friends. Keep on being your supportive self. :)

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THANKS once again for ALL the encouragement, and understanding.

I wish my neighbors and my mother's co-workers (the local grocery store)all treated me the same as before all this CRAPFEST happened..... but we are so far past, that, it doesn't even matter.

So, tonight in talking with the lawyer ,,,
he said he discussed the evaluation and if the results are GOOD,
(which we KNOW they will be) they WOULD be willing to lesson
the charge for a plea , ONLY not to go to trial.
if we want to go to trial, it's going to be, the measure 11 offense.
and Yea, that's NO GOOD........
so right now
their FIRST, table offer basically and I dont even KNOW the specifics yet,
Is probation w/ a suspended prison sentence
(if you screw up on probation, you do the prison time)
AND, registering as a non-predetory sex offender.
He says, the "register" is for adult offenders,
It's not AS BAD as you think,
Im like
YES IT IS, HE DIDN"T DO ANYTHING!!!!!
NOTHING!!!
anyways, he has to talk to Mike, and discuss things,
I told him ask them if we can REMOVE his name from that list,
when he completes probation or something?
the lawyers going to TRY,
first to agree with NO registering,
then offer temporarily registering.

It's sooooo messed up, that's the way it IS....
yes, it's something like 82% of ALL sex crime trials, find the defendant
GUILTY
not good odds when playing with a six and half year sentence.....

So, that's where im at tonight.... at LEAST There's a glimpse of hope,
him getting OUT OF THERE and back home with us.
the lawyer also says, later down the road, we can fight the registry,
by hiring an attoryney and going to court again.
saying the SAME Thing as now, nothing happened, but a six year senence and
dumb jurors are NOTHING to play rush and roulette with.

and,
yes, ANY and ALL help is VERY much appreciated, in this matter,
but don't do it cuz you feel sorry for me or for him,
ONLY
donate if it's somethig you WANT to do,,,, to make good karma points, or
whatever your reason may be.
I'll get it SOMEHOW, believe me.....
if I have to go into debt to everyone I know, I absolutely will.
THIS IS his only shot, at not doing prison time.

SOMETHING must be done about this..... Now I know why I thought,
why are there SO MANY sex offenders?
WELL NOW I KNOW!!
all you have to do, is fart in the wrong direction, and you can be accused of sodomy!!!!
then, be pretty much forced to take a "plea" and save YOURSELF from being sexually assualted, IN PRISON.

I hope you can sense my sarcasim, Im laughing typing this, because, well IF I don't laugh, I'll go NUTS.

and just remember, before you tell me NOT to let him take the plea,
put yourself in MY shoes for just a moment,
with a whiny kid walking around asking for his daddy every 20 mins, for two weeks straight now,
And, paying half my paycheck to just daycare.
at least if he was home, that'd save me almost 600 a month.
and my son would still go to the "free" preschool..... half a day three days a week.

anyways, it's scary,
it's no joke, that's for sure.
Why ANYONE would want to do THIS to some happy lil family is BEYOND me,,,
but like I said,
at least there IS light at the end of the tunnel.
thanks for listening

oh, and i don't know IF we are going to take annything.
But I'll keep all you guys posted........................

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Amber, I've waited a full two days to write this, and even now I'm sick to my stomach, but I can't NOT say it.

Do you know what a psychosexual evaluation is?

They analyze every sexual thought, action, fantasy and act the subject has ever had/done, leaving no stone unturned. First masturbation, first sexual experience, fantasies, thoughts about mom, dad, brother, sister, specific acts, frequency, etc, etc. etc. This is supposed to be kept highly confidential, and I believe the DA and victims attorney are supposed to only see the results/recommendations. But in my court experience they put the WHOLE evaluation, including every gory detail, into the file, for anyone who has access to the file (including the clerks office) to see.
And the fact is, EVERYONE has done something that SOMEONE considers deviant, even if it's not. For example, in the case I was involved with, a woman's husband preferred oral sex over intercourse. That is not considered "normal" - but who is to say?

Mike could try to beat the test, so to speak, and just say he's only ever had sex with his wife in the missionary position, but they would know he's lying and use that against him. WHO TOLD YOU THAT THIS SPECIALIST's EVALUATIONS HAVE GOTTEN PEOPLE'S SENTENCES REDUCED/DISMISSED, WHATEVER?
Mike isn't accused of any kind of sexual deviancy (like pedophilia) so how can looking at every shred of his sexual history, only to conclude that he is not a sexual deviant help him? This is a man who was accused of reaching over a groping a woman. Remember back in the days when rape victims were re-victimized in court by having their sex lives looked at under a microscope, and then declared to be a slut and had it coming? Well, it sounds like this is the tactic theyre using on MIKE. Why should Mike be subject to revealing every single sexual encounter he has ever participated in? This is insanity.

I feel like I'm doing an awful job trying to clarify this. I guess the real question is, what EVIDENCE do they have against him? Isn't a conviction ultimately based on the evidence? A man should not be judged guilty or innocent based on exposing every detail of his sexual being, and then letting someone else decide whether that information makes him a pervert or not. You know how they tell you anything you say can be used against you? Well if the eval says he's not a pervert then fine, but she can still insist that he grabbed her. But if there is anything in the eval that they say is "not normal" then they are going to convict him. And like I said, I believe EVERYBODY has done or thought SOMETHING that someone is going to feel is not "normal"

Amber, I am not a psychologist and I am not a lawyer. Just a person on a forum who was a party to a case where a psychosexual eval was used. From what you have said here I don't believe Mike should be subjected to it. I could be totally wrong. Get other outside advice and help. Don't just go by what the guy selling his services tells you. And above all, trust your gut. Do what you believe is best. We are here for you and support you NO MATTER WHAT!
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Yep, that's why I talked to six different lawyers, total now.

I asked every single one,
how this sounded. Even two firms from Portland,
the ONLY way they are going to come off, the "measure 11" crime is by doing it, the ONLY way.

EVERY attorney says, GET THE MEASURE 11 REDUCED...... that's all they say, over and over. I brought up the eval
to them, they say, YES, if that's what the prosecution wants, then do it.
I asked other lawyers about the guy- they said he's not on anyone's "side" like, you know, he won't work against, Mike.
the one guy in portland that I've talked to three times now,
he's the one who said he's helped prove a couple of people's innocense.
he's sopposed to be the "best"
and yes, I knew that it was intense and all that.
I've told mike the same thing,,,
to basically be honest, but I wouldn't say anythig about any type of pain and sex, LOL
things like that.
this chick is saying he FORCED himself onto her,
and the state needs "proof" of some kind, he won't re-offend, I guess this is the proof they want.

we are paying him, the state will NOT pay for this the state would like him to get prison time.

I hope I'm making sense here. And, we know they could use whatever they want, but the attorney we have,
said he wouldn't reccomend it if he thought it wasn't going to turn out well.
He also said, we can always NOT use the results, IF it is bad. but I really don't want to wast $2500

This is the ONLY WAY
to get rid of that mandatory minimum sentence.

so what would YOU DO THEN?

and I read my last text message wrong last night, they didn't say anything about registering as a sex offender,the lawyer just said, he will be a convicted sex offender, cuz he'll be pleaing to sex abuse in the third degree.
Right now, he's charged with sex abuse one.

So, I'm going to work, and I just don't see any other way out.
that's why I talked to so many attorneys yesterday, to see WHAT THEY would do, If I were to hire them.
Well like I already said, they all said the same thing.

This is the hardest thing ever.

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You're definitely in a tough position having to decide if you want to take the plea or if you think you have enough proof to show the court this immature, degenerate is lying.

If you decide to fight the case and not plea your lawyer could do a lot. He could get people that know your partner from work, other people he drove, or anyone in your community that knows him to testify what kind of person he is and that he would not commit any such crime. Especially if it is a person of authority in your community like a priest, or if he has seen a psychologist recently you may be able to get him to speak to the court that he is stable and would have no reason to commit such crime. I'm sure some of these people may charge, but your freedom is worth no amount of money.

You could also show how messed up or unstable the plaintiff is. Maybe if she submitted to a drug test and she showed up positive for hard, illicit drugs you could show that she is not in a proper mental state and may have reason to lie, possibly a way to get money. It's too bad lie detectors don't hold up in court.

I really hope you are able to turn the table on that "person" and allow the truth to prevail. Good luck.



I agree with every word of this , except the very first sentence. The burden of PROOF is on the plaintiff. And it sounds like there is NO EVIDENCE. So it is going to be a contest of character. Is the plaintiff still an active drug user? Do she have a criminal record? Does she have any standing in the community, even a job?
See, I keep reading all the things the lawyer is telling you about how "bad" it is. But imagine what HER attorney is saying...you have no proof, it's your word against his, they're going to put you on trial, maybe you should drop this.

Lawyers ALWAYS want their clients to take the path of least resistance. And they want to avoid trials. I hate to say this, but it sounds like your lawyer is trying to SCARE you into doing what is easiest. Why the fuck should Mike have to register as a sex offender? And what does that do to his future? And God forbid, what if he were ever accused of anything again?

It sounds like Mike has much more in the way of character than the plaintiff. He is clean, is an employee, a husband and a father. And no, 82% or sex crimes DO NOT result in a conviction, because less than 10% ever reach a courtroom. It's more like 0.82%. What ever happened to the motion to dismiss?

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he has the "prior" conviction from when I was 18,
most of the attorneys I already talked to , said this will most likely be enough for MOST jurors to side with the victim.

no, she has no criminal history, she's on pain pills, but they're perscribed.

she supposidly partially paralyzed, on one side. but mike said she walked like ANYone else.
she's only about 110 pounds or something, I guess the reason for her medical problems is she was born three months premeture.

I'd go to trial in a MINUTE if it wasn't AUTOMATICALY SIX AND A HALF YEARS PRISON TIME
no possible early release.

Does anyone get that part?

I get it, he COULD WIN the jury.

every lawyer said, its OVER 80% of the ONES THAT GO TO TRIAL
So I'm only talking about TRIALS, they find the defendent guilty.
now, granted, thats EVERY sex crime,
but still,,,,,
this is playing with fire and I honestly beleive if YOU were looking at your husband
coming home or PROBABLY doing SIX YEARS (mandatory min) could be TEN!!
you'd be thinking about it, too.

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Amber, I didn't mean to upset you or put you on the defensive. And yes, if this were my husband, I'd be a complete basket case! I am 100%, totally, unquestionably, unwaverably, ON YOUR SIDE! OK?
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oh,
and don't forget the phone call, and the texts.... Now, he clearly doesn't admit anything, the texts are all very general
but the other attorneys I spoke with said,
it wouldn't take much to prove that there was some flirting going on, you know... and honestly, being NICE and flirting are basically the same thing, of course until it goes further.

but what Im saying is while mike clearly doesn't admit to anything in the calls,
it's CLEAR they will use it against him, and
the other lawyers, did say the same thing, them having that was the ONLY reason they had enough to press charges.

I mean a grand jury thought it was enough?

this is all VERY overwhelming and I'm glad you guys are asking these tough questions, I don't mind answering them becuase honestly, I don't know WHAT to do.

and I did say it above, but i read my last message wrong, and they didn't say register as a sex offender,
the lawyer was reminding me he'd be a convicted sex offender.

Okay, gotta get the kiddo ready, but I'll check back in a few hours from my phone....... :wink:

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Lillyval wrote:
Amber, I didn't mean to upset you or put you on the defensive. And yes, if this were my husband, I'd be a complete basket case! I am 100%, totally, unquestionably, unwaverably, ON YOUR SIDE! OK?
Love,
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I know..... it's OKAY...... It's just the stakes, you know?

it's alot..... a huge amount to lose..... Did I say that I hired a private investigator, and he hasn't been able to find anything yet???

that SUCKS,,, yes

I'd really like to pay her a little visit, show her what ACTUALLY deserves charges pressed!!

thats a JOKE!!!!

I just want my love home.......

thats it at this point.

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he has the "prior" conviction from when I was 18,
most of the attorneys I already talked to , said this will most likely be enough for MOST jurors to side with the victim.



If you were 18 and willing, what could any court possibly convict him of?


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Amber your new signature is beautiful. Very very true. I can't imagine the feelings of going through this, I can't imagine having to deal with this on top of everything else. Stay strong girl. You were such a huge help to me, I wish I could be the same for you. I miss seeing you all over the boards.

The amount of love and work you're putting into this is an inspiration. When your hubby walks and he WILL walk free, you better let one of us tell him how amazing of a person you really are.

Keep strong, keep fighting.

This is an odd question, but does your husband have any very distinctive marks, tattoos, a whale sized package that the girl would obviously be able to indentify if anything she has stated is true? Based on circumstance the girl should and would be able to indentify those things.

I don't know :( this is hard. You're doing amazing though and I'm saying a daily prayer for you.

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amber4.14.11 wrote:
he has the "prior" conviction from when I was 18,
most of the attorneys I already talked to , said this will most likely be enough for MOST jurors to side with the victim.



If you were 18 and willing, what could any court possibly convict him of?



I'm pretty sure I explained this part, somewhere alrready, but when i was 16 I moved out of my mom and stepdads' house.
me and my best friend, rented a four bedroom house, with about four other friends, and Mike started staying there, about a WEEK AFTER my 18th birthday.
WELL
my stepdad, did NOT like Mike, one bit, he was 24 years old, that's reason enough, probably,,,,, LOL

anyways,
he called the police, told them I was "underage"
you know what heppens next,,,,
well just SO HAPPENS that night, they came to arrest him, we were all drinking,
and he got a contributing to deliquency of a minor charge, too.

WELL he sits in JAIL for TWO MONTHS before talking to ANYONE,,,,, finally a lawyer comes in to see him
the first time he's SEEN a lawyer, with a "plea deal"
well, he took it, becuz it meant he'd get out that day.
and you know, they ARREST FIRST, ask questions later, it's all there is to it.
that's obvious, in this current case as well.

we NOW have a "letter" with my dad's name and everything, backing up exactly what I've put here,
saying he didn't like him, wanted him gone, ETC
well, as you can see, his plan back then backfired.LOL
anyways,
the lawyer says, they MAY OR MAY NOT let us use the letter, or him as a "witness"
and just the fact of all the charges they "stack" on you when you are arrested, it just LOOKS BAD
on his record.

Anyways, ANDREW THANKYOU
thanks for all your encouragement, and kind words

so nothings really different today,
lawyer's still trying to work out specifics of a plea deal,
I called the law firm in Portland again and spoke with them,,,
about taking a plea,,,,
they said when mike completes probation, (that means IF we get the deal)
we could pay like 800 dollars and "file" to have this WHOLE MESS removed
from his record, totally
so there's a GOOD option.
oh and I told the lawyer no registering as a sex offender, he says the ONLY people that
have to do that, are the ones convicted, with CHILDREN involved, so there's some halfway good news.

the thing that's making everything HARDER to deal with
is the assault charges.
the fact is they ADDED THREE FELONIES to his arrest,
when they arrested him, claiming "he fought with police"
which is TOTAL BULLSHIT,but everyone I've talked to says, it
just doesn't matter what ACTUALLY happened
it's what they are SAYING happened.

so, that's about it for now.
I'm just hopeful both sides can come to an agreement, here,
and everything goes well monday,,,,,,

thanks again everyone.
be thinking of us

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^ Oh, I see.

Hey, I've been there. No judgement. When I was 15 I moved in with my 22 year old boyfriend but luckily none of the parents minded. We're were together for several years and are still close friends today but I broke it off after I graduated high school. Had anyone reported us he could have been in big trouble.

That's unfortunate for Mike. I just wasn't sure about how the conviction could come about if you were "of age" despite what anyone said but I guess if there were other circumstances..


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Great point WantToBeFREE

I really don't think they'll throw someone in jail simply over those text messages that don't prove or show any slight admittance. When liars get involved in a huge situation like this they typically bust after consistently getting interrogated and there is a hole in there story or they say something that contradicts something they'd previously said. By asking incredibly detailed questions you could prove your innocence when her story doesn't match. When and where did she say the crime occurred? If she says it happened in the car ride or whatever, why would she wait to call the police? If she said otherwise you could get an alibi, but I'd think they would get all of this basic stuff situated before they actually took it to court.

The stats you mentioned about 80% of the people getting convicted, and it is definitely a very serious crime that messes with peoples' emotions, but then again I doubt this kind of thing happens hardly ever that involves someone completely making up the crime to get revenge. So, it would add up if a lie happened once every twenty trials with them getting off and three others just getting lucky due to good lawyers and lack of evidence.

It's a sensitive subject and hard for people to understand how messed up some others are in the head to lie about a sexual assault, but personally I think you should stand up for the truth. Three things could happen, and its ultimately up to y'all to decide, 1) your lawyer proves his innocence by the little evidence one can make out of nothing (calls and texts), 2) he pleads and gets not as bad of consequences of if he didn't plead and was convicted but still way more than what he deserves and 3) your lawyer doesn't capitalize to prove wrong the bullshit so called "evidence" or just unable to convince the jury.

I really hope you are able to manage and do whatever you believe give you the best shot. I'm just an observer and aren't in your situation but wish you're able to get out of that situation without a single charge that's undeserving.


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Yeah Amber,

you are in a really shitty predicament. When I was charged with DUI for being on sub and abilify, my lawyer did the same thing. He said I really wouldnt do well with a jury trial because most people dont. The cop wrote a long report about how impaired I was and the jury would have most likely believed her. I took the shitty plea for the same reason Mike is thinking. Jail is not a good place to be.

Have you talked to his boss? Will he able to go back to work after this is over?

Im still praying for you guys. This just sucks sooooo fricken bad. Im so impressed that you are holding the family together, working, talking to lawyers, and supporting Mike without losing it. You are not turning to drugs. Keep it up girl. God is with you!


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Great point WantToBeFREE

I really don't think they'll throw someone in jail simply over those text messages that don't prove or show any slight admittance. When liars get involved in a huge situation like this they typically bust after consistently getting interrogated and there is a hole in there story or they say something that contradicts something they'd previously said. By asking incredibly detailed questions you could prove your innocence when her story doesn't match. When and where did she say the crime occurred? If she says it happened in the car ride or whatever, why would she wait to call the police? If she said otherwise you could get an alibi, but I'd think they would get all of this basic stuff situated before they actually took it to court.


So, the attorneys (BOTH ours and the prosecuting) that "VICTIMS RIGHTS" state
she only has to make the original statement, she never has to say it again, unless it DOES
go to trial then all she has to do , is say the statement again, they can CHOOSE to NOT be interviewed/questioned
isn't that a LOAD OF CRAP????
cuz I thougth the SAME THING, her story will change, it's inevitible!!

well, they DID throw him in jail for it,,,
and honest to GOD, the texts and call, he isn't "admitting'' to ANYTHING... he's just saying "umm okay"
PROBABLY
because it was the best paying job, he'd EVER had by a long shot.
he was probably thinking in HIS HEAD, what the F is this weirdo talkign about?
I remember
LOTS OF TIMES, people calling his phone, at night, and he'd answer, and they were like lonely and just wanted
SOMEBODY TO TALK TO,,,, mostly older folks and stuff,
you know, whose kids never come by to see them.
he had lots of "regulars" and they'd call and chit chat with him, about whatever, like I said,
I think they are just lonely

her EXACT claim the prosecutor read in court last week,
was that he "grabbed her upper thigh and crotch area, while she was trying to fight him off, but she's partially paralyzed on that side, he just kept forcing his hand all over her, while driving, but then he DID eventually stop"

then they texted a few times, talked on the phone, the call that's recorded, and he's obviously very short with her, not wanting anything to do with her, becuase of the way he acted

Im thinking WHAT?????
are you KIDDING ME?????

orange doll asked
Have you talked to his boss? Will he able to go back to work after this is over?

His certification is Officially "suspended"
thru the dispatch center, until "this is all completely cleared up
which, if he ends up taking a plea bargain, will not happen.

AND YES, apparently COPS can SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO
because they ended up charging mike with THREE FELONY ASSAULT CHARGES
for nothing,,,, I'm telling you, for NOTHING.... he was in his underwear, and he did sorta raise his voice and demand
a reason for being arrested, but they wouldn't tell him, so he steps BACK from them, ONE STEP and TWO COPS jump on him,,,
a struggle occurs, and NOW mike's been charged with THREE COUNTS , Felony assualting an officer of the law
it's soooo freaking crazy.

and MY ten page statement, well they don't even care!!!

anyways,,,
Mike does have a job, with my boss, whenever he didn't have many rides and we were busy at the shop,he'd work
a saturday here and there, or a half day during the week..... My boss also owns some storage units at the south end of town, and he had mike cut the grass a few times, clean out a couple units ETC ETC
so,
there's that, he can do when the kiddos at head start,
honestly,
he can just stay home awhile, NOT having the 550 a month go out to daycare, will be a HUGE help
and we don't have many bills at all,,,, after we do the bankruptcy here very SOON, I won't be getting garnished anymore and we'll be okay.

So, that's all I have to "report" today, it's all just a waiting game,,,,
has been from the begining.

It HAS BEEN HARD, to stay supportive for him and for Sam, and keep myself held together.
but having YOU GUYS HERE<
and a few close people here,, physically,............. helps ALOT.
I think ONE reason I've HAD TO BE STRONG is for my son,,, if it weren't for him, I'm not sure HOW I would
have taken this whole thing?
he's doing okay, by the way.... the counselor that came over, last week, left some "bunny books" here,
there's a sad, angry, frustrated, happy, and anxious bunny books
we read them together, and he tells me How HE feels, the counselor said THATS KEY, getting him to share how he's feeling more than once in the evening, or when he's upset. and I'm sopposed to tell HIM, how I feel, too. so I have been and it seems to be helping... it is heart breaking some times, though.

thanks soooo much for your support thru this,,, it really HAS been a nightmare
but Im hopeful it will be OVER soon......

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You are in my thoughts and prayers daily, Amber. You are a strong, strong individual.


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I die!! Your son is SO stinkin' cute. I can't take it.. I hope he is reunited with his Daddy as soon as possible. Thinking of you guys.


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tinydancer wrote:
I die!! Your son is SO stinkin' cute. I can't take it.. I hope he is reunited with his Daddy as soon as possible. Thinking of you guys.



THANKS..... really, thankyou....... I think he's pretty cute too!!!!!!!!!


I FORGOT TO SAY IN MY ABOVE POST......

that I was SO SNEAKY in the visiting tank today,,,, MIKE SAW THE VIDEO!!!!!
it was great, for HIM to SEE his son,,, he hasn't laid eyes on him in TWO LONG WEEKS,
so him watching that video, from earlier today, brought tears to his eyes of course.

I had my sweatshirt off, and piled in the corner of where the glass between us, meets,
and I held the phone thing down by the mic on the smartphone,
held the screen up a little, so he could see it, and he was able to watch, listen, and take it "all in"
for lack of a better term...........

On the way out, I hear thru the speaker,
"Mrs. Cowan, you are NOT allowed to bring your phone, extra clothing or any notebooks next time"

OKAY!!!
NO PROBLEM

LOL
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and as I walked away I thought,,,,, man WHAT A MONSTER this guy is,,,, tearing up over the sight of his kid,
WOW they really DID take a predetor off the streets!!!!!

LOL
not really,,,,,, there's a good guy in there, for basically NO reason at all
But,,,
my FIGHT CONTINUES ON!!!!!

goodnight all

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