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 Post subject: Had a slip but I'm back!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:06 pm 
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Hello everyone! I had a slip in the beginning of the month but I'm back on track. I have so much trouble reaching out and asking for help and it really nit me in the butt. I kept thinking I needed to ask my doctor to up me from 8mg to 16mg but each appointment I wouldn't ask. This led to a 9 day run back on heroin but I was quickly disgusted by the lifestyle I found myself in and quickly checked into detox and got back on Suboxone. All is well again and the moral of the story is never be afraid to ask for help and be honest with your doctor about how you're feeling!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:21 pm 
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Welcome back Jiva! Luckily you got away with it and were able to get back on track. Next time you might not be so lucky. Please do all you can to stay clean on Suboxone and find a recovery program your comfortable with.

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Thanks rule! I made some big changes this time to help keep me on track. I was living in a very small rural area which was hard on me since I'm a city guy at heart. I was also going to school to become an alcohol and drug counselor when I have serious doubts about the way we approach treatment in the US. So I moved to Seattle where there's a big refuge recovery community (used to be dharma punx) which is a non-religious and mindfulness based recovery support group. There's also the People's Harm Reduction Alliance where I can volunteer and actually feel good about helping people rather than worry if I'm doing more harm than good by working in a broken treatment system.


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Jiva welcome bk! That's a great message to everyone. We're not perfect and we all have to be aware that this can happen. Glad u made it bk and seems like u have an understanding Dr too. I'm kinda like u when asking for help, there's been times that I needed to ask my Dr for something and I get so wrapped up in thinking he won't think I'm perfect that I just don't ask. That's definitely something I need to be more humble about for sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:07 pm 
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Jiva wrote:
Thanks rule! I made some big changes this time to help keep me on track. I was living in a very small rural area which was hard on me since I'm a city guy at heart. I was also going to school to become an alcohol and drug counselor when I have serious doubts about the way we approach treatment in the US. So I moved to Seattle where there's a big refuge recovery community (used to be dharma punx) which is a non-religious and mindfulness based recovery support group. There's also the People's Harm Reduction Alliance where I can volunteer and actually feel good about helping people rather than worry if I'm doing more harm than good by working in a broken treatment system.


I totally get you! I have issues with the way a lot of treatment programs are run too! Harm reduction is where we are headed because that is what is backed by evidence. I'm in grad school for addiction studies. It's very strange because some of my classes still use texts that promote abstinent based group therapy, for example, but they are based on ideas from the 80s and early 90s. However, most of the current research and scientific evidence is backing up harm reduction principles and therapies.

Still, it's like the elephant in the room! None of the professors are willing to say that abstinence based therapies only work to an extent and with certain personality types. None of them will say that 12 step group teachings are not evidence-based. In fact, 12 step groups have historically resisted participating in research, perhaps because they are aware that their members (especially newer members) are relapsing at high rates.

Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I think that step work and group therapy can be very valuable for addicts. I am only saying that by themselves, they haven't proven to be effective long-term practices. What I have found is that punitive, abstinence-based treatment programs are leaving out a large segment of addicts who need treatment. The kind of programs that kick you out until you are "ready to be in recovery" are not sufficient and leave many addicts out in the cold. But the lower threshold programs that meet the addict where they are... That is what addicts need.

You're not alone! When I earn my masters I will be advocating for evidence based practices and working in harm reduction. I hope to be writing or influencing policy some day. I know that there will be pushback, but I think the industry is going to turn a corner soon!

I'm glad you're here! :)

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