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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:50 pm 
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Hello everyone,
What a fantastic resource and community to stumble upon! After 25 years of active addiction I managed to hit the bottom and surrender. I came out of a diabetic coma two weeks ago, a direct result of my substance abuse. Fortunate enough not only to "wake up" but also be pointed in the direction of a compassionate addiction specialist that inducted me yesterday. This is all so new to me and honestly a bit scary. I have seen a few dear friends do extremely well and totally transform their lives due to this therapy and I'm quite optimistic I'll follow in their footsteps and regain bits and pieces of my soul that this disease has eroded. It is a new day for sure, a heartfelt thank you to this community in a BIG way!


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 Post subject: Re: Greetings
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Welcome o' brief

Suboxone can be a great tool to have when you have decided enough is enough with addiction.

I have been able to repair & rebuild and I hope you will too. Suboxone is just a tool, what recovery plans have you made?


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Hi tiki -
Thanks for the reply. I begin an intensive outpatient program on Friday and have been attending 12 step meetings along with seeing a psychologist for cbt counseling. Coming out of the haze a day at a time for now.


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Hey O'Brien, Welcome! Congrats on getting into recovery! Diabetes can be daunting to manage especially if an addict and prone to that way of thinking. So, this must have been a life changing experience for you! I wish you all the luck! Please stick around and keep us informed as to how you are doing!


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Hey O'Brian and welcome!!

Ur right, this forum is pretty awesome for ppl on sub treatment. I wasn't lucky enough to find this place during my first yrs of sub, u can learn so much here and get lot's of support. Ur life will become so much better because of suboxone, just like u said ur friends have. It gives us a chance to repair all the damage that we did during our active addiction days and live a happy productive life again. I could go on and on lol. My father is diabetic and I know how difficult it is to deal with, I couldn't imagine being an addict on top of that, I'm sure it's tough. U definitely made the right choice, that I'm sure of.

I hope everything goes well for u and if u have any questions just ask :)

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Welcome O'brien,
I'm excited to see you get your life back.
Good luck, take care and keep us posted!


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Thanks for the encouragement everyone, it is truly appreciated. I know that suboxone is only one piece of the jigsaw puzzle I call life, however just being able to get out of bed and face the day is beyond liberating. Fact is, I'm slowly realizing I never cultivated any coping mechanisms to deal with life on life's terms.which has left me literally paralyzed with fear. I feel that I have been given a second chance and plan on utilizing this therapy as a stepping stone to reconnect and reach my full potential.


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How are you feeling after a couple of days? Do you feel your dose is sufficiently holding you?
would be great to hear from you :)


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I'm feeling very well both physically and mentally. The first two days were a little rough, some nausea and very lethargic/disconnected. By Thursday I came around and continue to shed the side effects. The 8mg is holding me well.. zero cravings and the added benefit of pain relief. I've had diabetes for over 20 years and as a result suffer from peripheral neuropathy in my hands and feet which has been relieved also. I've tried a number of different medications over the years for it, all to no avail. Had no idea it would be effective for this condition.. couldn't be happier, my quality of life has done a complete 180 from 5 days ago!


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Hey O'Brien, so happy to hear that you are feeling better! I know suboxone helps me with osteoarthritis! Hope that you just keep getting better and better!


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How are you today?


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There is someone very cute you haven't introduced to us yet!
I'm so pleased things are levelling out for you. I inducted on a low dose of 3mg and I had no sides to speak of. I am now on 12 mg and my highest dose was 18mg.
Also, I feel for you having PN. I have PN that was induced by hep c drugs. I have found significant relief using magnesium powder daily. After a couple of weeks it was gone and I was able to sleep without being woken by pain and numbness. When I stop the magnesium powder it returns in about 10 days.
Keep us posted on how are doing!


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PN is no is no picnic that's for sure. I too would awake several times at night to the burning and numbness in my hands and feet. Since my induction it has not bothered me a bit! Never heard of powdered mag but will definitely look into it in case the sub loses it's effectiveness.

Katipo - How long did it take you to titrate up from 3mg to 12? Do you take your 12 in one dose? It seems like the analgesic effects begin to wane if I take my dose early in the AM so i began taking mine until around 2 pm so i can have the relief from PN at night. I'm wondering if I should ask my doc if I can split my dose of 8 into two 4mg's morning and night but I don't want to rock the boat seeing it's been less than a week.

The very cute someone is Cedar. He's a 7 year old English Setter. My bird hunting buddy and companion, he has literally been a life saver. Been with me through thick and thin.. Unconditionally!


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 Post subject: Re: Greetings
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Hello Obrien,

Just read your thread here. So so glad you found this forum at the very begining of your new life .Such good information here and over in dr j s Talkzone.

Im impressed that you have a all out recovery plan. I did the same thing 5 years ago. IOP with meetings and therapy. Looks like you have it covered. Its so important to dig in deeper and work on yourself. IOP and the company of thoses in 12 step traditional meetings helped me with changing people and placds in life. Good for you!!! :D ..

I lofe it when a newcomer comes on here and has that 180 degree turn around in s matter of days..

You didnt didn't ask me but the question of one or two a day dosing has been asked. Ideally, it is best to do one day dosing. This breaks the habit of reaching for something as we did in active addiction. If ypu can pull it off once aday is best. DrvJunig says this all the time.

However many here dose twice a day. See what your doc has to say about it...


Many Dog lovers here. I have a Golden who has saved my life in more ways than I can count.

Your boy is a handsome guy..thanks for shairing the pics...

Enjoy your first free and clean Sunday!!!


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Absolutely gorgeous dog!!!!!

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Hello O'brien,
I increased my dose over one year. My first prescriber would only allow me to go up to 6mg, with the view of short term. Thankfully I found a wonderful prescriber who is understanding and within a year I crept up to 18. I did this because I was still holding onto addict mentality of needing more. It took some time on this website to convince me I would have the same effect at lower doses. I will reduce further at some point but i am happy at 12 for now. Its also effective for chronic pain. I actually dose two or three times a day. I realise this isn't encouraged but it works well for me.
Cedar is awfully handsome, but I shuddered when you mentioned "hunting buddy"
O'brien I have never understood how someone could enjoy killing animals. For me. Knowing they are either full of fear or in pain...well it makes me feel sick. They have a family, a social order and a right to live.
wouldnt it be nicer to just sit and watch them???


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 Post subject: Re: Greetings
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Hello O'Brien, Due to the osteoarthritis, I split my dose to 2mgs three times a day. It really does help! Hope things continue to go smoothly for you! Love the pics of your dog, he is beautiful! And ps...many animal lovers here so you are going to get some grief if you are a hunter! I am one of those people too who does not understand getting pleasure out of killing anything! But, no judgement!


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Hey O'Brien, Your last post was not up when I started writing my last one. I think your situation is different. Sounds like you respect the animal and have learned that hunting is for food. To me, that is much different than hunting for sport! It is not a sport and killing for enjoyment of any kind is not what God intended. Yes, that is my opinion! More importantly, we are all brothers and sisters and need to respect each other regardless of our differences in thinking! Hope you have a great Monday!


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Thanks Michelle - I think I will discuss my dosing regime with my physician at my next appt. I think I would benefit from splitting my current dose into an AM & PM. As I stated the analgesic effect seems to decrease significantly by the time evening rolls around when I'm getting settled into bed. I know Dr. Junig here is an opponent of multiple doses and my MD might be as well but I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask.


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