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 Post subject: I GOT TO STOP!!
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:57 am 
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My 1st posting here....glad to have found this. Here's a summary of my story:

Started taking Hydrocodone in 2006 for back pain...went from 4 -5mg per day to 6 10/325 per day from '09 to july '12. Then decided to stop this, going on Suboxone. It was a blessing!! No problem stopping the pills with the strips!!

Been averaging 1 1/3 to 2 strips per day up until May 21. On May 21 a guy at work was fired failing a random drug test for marijuana. Its got me SCARED to death!! I am 58 yrs old, not in great shape $$$ and cannot lose this great job! So scared I will fail and be fired for using Suboxone even though its prescribed. So I've cut it down to 1/4 strip per day taken the moment I leave work. Its been tough!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else have problems with work over taking Suboxone?


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Really would like to hear of anyones experiences regarding drug testing for your job on Suboxone.

Seems to me this would be ok if its Dr's orders and you are trying to stop ......but the heartless way they dumped the other guy has me scared shitless!!


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As long as you have a valid prescription for Suboxone, they can't fire you for being on Suboxone. That's my understanding of the law.

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Plus it is soooo rare for a company to test for BUP. Suboxone doesnt show up as an opiate. So the company would have to get an expensive 11 panel test to do this. Most companies just test for the major drugs. But Romeo is correct. If you have a script, you have nothing to worry about.


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Thank you Romeo for the reply....Thats how it SHOULD be however I'd rather not even chance it so I'm trying to get off this stuff faster than what the Dr was figuring...probably got a lot to do with $$$$ as far as she is concerned I bet. She in fact has told me to stay on this since it does help with my severe back problems. I just HATE being addicted to a drug!!!

Theres a chance they dont even check for Suboxone as I have read searching info on this....I was even thinking of telling my boss BEFORE any test I'm on this.....but its always.....WHAT IF !!!

SUCKS!


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raudy1975 wrote:
Plus it is soooo rare for a company to test for BUP. Suboxone doesnt show up as an opiate. So the company would have to get an expensive 11 panel test to do this. Most companies just test for the major drugs. But Romeo is correct. If you have a script, you have nothing to worry about.




Thank you Raudy....maybe I'm stressing for nothing. Theres only 4 of us who operate this plant 24/7, they already got rid of 25% of our staff with firing this guy for testing positive for marijuana....I've been told I'm the best Operator he's got. Just at 58 yrs old it wouldn't be fun looking for work again. And taking a large pay cut for sure.

I'm a worrier anyway, ask my 4 grown up girls! :D


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papacraner wrote:
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I'm a worrier anyway, ask my 4 grown up girls! :D


That must have been fun for their dating life! :wink:
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Amy-Work In Progress wrote:
papacraner wrote:
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I'm a worrier anyway, ask my 4 grown up girls! :D


That must have been fun for their dating life! :wink:
Amy


LOL....the stories I could tell!! I STILL expect calls when they are going anywhere and they're all married. 10 grandDAUGHTERS! :D


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Should I discuss this with my boss before any testing? Rather not, its private!!


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^ I wouldn't disclose it. The chance they test for it is so low and you may bring unwanted attention to yourself by doing so, for no reason. I really think you'll be fine, I know that those are huge "what ifs" that you're talking about above but try not to stress about this. Marijuana is illegal. What you're taking is legal, you're are legitimately prescribed the medication and it's not common for bup to be tested in standard workplace drug screens.

Take a breath! I know it's easier said that done.. you sound like a great Dad, btw. :)


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Hi papacraner and welcome here. Listen to Tinydancer and say nothing. Would you also like to tell your boss that you're on anti-depressants or Viagra? Nope, keep it to yourself. We have a thing called HIPPA laws and your private medical information shall stay private unless you consent in writing.

Have no worries mate. Your job won't be lost due to drug abuse. Now that you are on Sub, all is well.

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^ I wouldn't disclose it. The chance they test for it is so low and you may bring unwanted attention to yourself by doing so, for no reason. I really think you'll be fine, I know that those are huge "what ifs" that you're talking about above but try not to stress about this. Marijuana is illegal. What you're taking is legal, you're are legitimately prescribed the medication and it's not common for bup to be tested in standard workplace drug screens.

Take a breath! I know it's easier said that done.. you sound like a great Dad, btw. :)


Thanks tinydancer ...I agree, no discussing...unless it happens and I must explain. I read somewhere that if its a legal drug the testing place will consult you first about a legal RX for it...if so they wont even tell your company. Whether thats true I dont know.

Isn't it something that this is a potential problem to lose a job and yet a problem drinker can get half stewed every night and not worry over losing his job. Booze IS a drug also!!

Thanks for the compliment....I try! 4 daughters and 10 granddaughters I'm highly outnumbered! :lol:


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rule62 wrote:
Hi papacraner and welcome here. Listen to Tinydancer and say nothing. Would you also like to tell your boss that you're on anti-depressants or Viagra? Nope, keep it to yourself. We have a thing called HIPPA laws and your private medical information shall stay private unless you consent in writing.

Have no worries mate. Your job won't be lost due to drug abuse. Now that you are on Sub, all is well.


Thanks Rule....Gonna try and not worry. My feelings toward this company have changed firing this guy. He was a very good worker, nice guy. So he smoked a joint at home relaxing and instead of a warning and 2nd chance they can him. 2 small kids. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!


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Papacraner,

I just talked to my wife, she's a human resource manager and she said exactly what you said earlier...."that if its a legal drug the testing place will consult you first about a legal RX for it...if so they wont even tell your company."

She said the only time they're notified of narcotic use is if the narcotic is illegal (weed, cocaine, etc) or if the narcotic is legal, but was obtained fraudulently.....so you're good to go, Bud!!!

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Thanks Romeo....and your wife too! I feel a lot better...still working to get off this but now can do it at a less stressful pace.

Just wondering....are you a success story getting off this?


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5 more days (June 4th) marks 3 years off of Suboxone for me. I guess I'm a success? :wink:

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Good for you!!! I am looking forward to the day I can say this is my ** anniversary being off all narcotics!! Never ever thought I'd be in this situation!! Dr said this will relieve your back pain....yea it did but grew into a monster! Last thing I want to leave as a legacy to my kids and grandkids is Papa was a " dopehead ". :x


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Romeo wrote:
Papacraner,

I just talked to my wife, she's a human resource manager and she said exactly what you said earlier...."that if its a legal drug the testing place will consult you first about a legal RX for it...if so they wont even tell your company."

She said the only time they're notified of narcotic use is if the narcotic is illegal (weed, cocaine, etc) or if the narcotic is legal, but was obtained fraudulently.....so you're good to go, Bud!!!




I just want to try and make you feel a little bit better,,,,, I totally agree with this post,, and actually,,,
I know it varies from state to state,

but all that "HIPPA" stuff,,,, IF a drug testing place WERE to tell the company paying for the drug screen, you are ON suboxone, well You'd have ONE BIG LAWSUIT to file, my friend.....

Unless, they had your WRITTEN CONSENT, of course,,,,, and that's at the company, the drug testing place AND the dr or pharmacy..... or yep, LAWSUIT........

Just so you know!!!!!

take a breath,,, it's allllllllll ookay.

glad ya found us :wink:

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That does relief a lot of anxiety Amber...thanks!! I'm glad I found this place! :wink:


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Papacraner,
Just wanted to let you know I completely understand how you feel. I started taking vicoprofen 7.5, 3-4 a day back in 2007 for back pain. It was the only thing that helped. And I've tried everything, short of surgery. Would have tried that too, but I was told it wouldn't be a permanent fix. And I was only 30 at the time. Fast forward to 2013 and I was taking oxycodone 15, 8-10 a day. Finally made the switch to suboxone a little over 4 months ago. It helps my back pain even more than the oxy did. My only side effect is tiredness, extreme at first, but not so bad now that I've cut my dosage down. My supervisor knows I'm on medication. I chose to tell her because I really don't care what anyone thinks. She also knows it's the only reason I'm able to come to work and stand for 8 hours a day. If it helps your pain, I wouldn't worry about coming off it. It's a completely legal medication. I didn't plan on staying on it either. Like you, I didn't want another addiction. But nothing has changed with my back. If anything, it's gotten worse over the years. I'll probably always have to take something. And it's so nice to have a med that actually gets rid of pain, and I don't obsess over it. Not always thinking, when can I take my next pill? Most days I take half of what I'm prescribed. Before I was taking double what I was supposed to. What a difference! Anyway, just wanted to let you know I came upon suboxone the same way as you. Amazing how quickly the pain pills can take over your life! It's nice to have a forum like this so we don't feel so all alone. Best of luck whichever you decide. This place is very supportive of people staying on sub, or trying to taper off. So many knowledgable, friendly people, always willing to help out.


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