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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 7:55 am 
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This is from the ACOFP news feed I receive:

Brief Notes: Latest on Addressing Opioids and Substance Misuse

A few items of interest this week:
•HHS Secretary Price Gets Pushback on Opioid Comments – Secretary Price drew fire from the addiction medicine community this week in response to his comments expressing concerns with current medication-assisted treatment (MAT) efforts. During a listening tour through West Virginia, Dr. Price appeared to express some skepticism about MAT programs that use buprenorphine or methadone, saying “If we’re just substituting one opioid for another, we’re not moving the dial much.” HHS officials made clear that Secretary Price is open to and supports a variety of treatment options for opioid and substance use addiction, but the remarks prompted some rebukes from the addiction medicine community, as well as the former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy.


•President Trump Appoints New Members of Opioid Commission – On Wednesday, President Trump named his first appointments to the White House Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis. The members include:

Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey (R)
Roy Cooper, Governor of North Carolina (D)
Charlie Baker, Governor of Massachusetts (R)
Former Representative Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Bertha Madras, Psychobiologist and a former deputy director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy

Me again, along with AG Sessions coming out with plans to ramp up the war on drugs with increasing sentences for non violent offenders the signals I am getting from Washington do not look promising. The grants to address opiate addiction are being reduced or limited as well in the most recent budget.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:39 am 
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Me again, along with AG Sessions coming out with plans to ramp up the war on drugs with increasing sentences for non violent offenders the signals I am getting from Washington do not look promising. The grants to address opiate addiction are being reduced or limited as well in the most recent budget.


If we could only build big enough prisons we might just solve the drug problem. Of course we'd destroy millions of lives in the process, but let's remember our priorities. No price too high for a drug free society in which we're all encouraged to rat out the addict next door. Perhaps we should just cut off their hands, like they do in Saudi Arabia I'm told for petty theft. That would show them....and have the added advantage of slowing down their drug usage.

I'd sigh or swear or bang the wall...or something... but what's the us?. We get the government we deserve.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:53 pm 
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Pretty soon we'll invite the president of the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte, to help rid our country of the horrible addicts that roam our streets killing our children. (please, just joking here)

It seems we are heading backwards toward the Nixon era in so many ways. Most of you don't remember that administration but it sure feels similar.

What can we do as a group? It still drives me nuts that we seem to have no voice of reason to represent us. And when one of us does get up and speak or write a letter, it is just ignored as soon as they hear Suboxone.

Depressing news.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:16 pm 
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The only slightly encouraging thing I see is that on the list of appointees to the commission, there are a couple of names that might be helpful.

Patrick Kennedy is an addict himself. And I'v heard that Chris Christie despite his tough guy persona
has some enlightened ideas (I could be wrong about Christie, as it's only something I got second hand.
I do think Patrick Kennedy is firmly in the "addiction is a medical issue" camp.

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Seems I was right about Christie: here's a link spelling out his positions:

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Chris_C ... _Drugs.htm


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I think we should take a leaf out of China's book and put ourselves into 10 year long prison rehab factories where we are put to work doing the shit jobs nobody else wants and live as slaves.


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:38 am 
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TeeJay wrote:
I think we should take a leaf out of China's book and put ourselves into 10 year long prison rehab factories where we are put to work doing the shit jobs nobody else wants and live as slaves.


I like it, but perhaps it's too good for us. :D


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rule62 wrote:
It seems we are heading backwards toward the Nixon era in so many ways. Most of you don't remember that administration but it sure feels similar.

What can we do as a group? It still drives me nuts that we seem to have no voice of reason to represent us. And when one of us does get up and speak or write a letter, it is just ignored as soon as they hear Suboxone.

Depressing news.


rule, I totally remember the Nixon era. I lived it and it was horrifying. I so hope we don't find ourselves as a Country in that position again. If so, we should all be afraid...very afraid.

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Hey, I have a crazy idea... How about we appoint some board-certified medical doctors, psychologists or addiction specialists instead of career politicians? I mean seriously. Is it evil to wish that these "suits" would experience opiate addiction and withdrawal themselves just once? It's not something I would wish on anybody, but I sometimes feel like you have to go through the hell we've gone through to understand just how important treatment is to SAVING LIVES!!

Medical interventions such as buprenorphine must be available as part of a comprehensive treatment program to as many that need it, or we're going to continue to watch the body count rise higher and higher. We need to change the way we see and deal with addiction fundamentally if we're going to have a chance.

It starts with us as citizens and voters. We all have phones and computers... let's put them to good use and contact whoever we need to contact to make a difference!!

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OpenMind wrote:
Hey, I have a crazy idea... How about we appoint some board-certified medical doctors, psychologists or addiction specialists instead of career politicians? I mean seriously. Is it evil to wish that these "suits" would experience opiate addiction and withdrawal themselves just once? It's not something I would wish on anybody, but I sometimes feel like you have to go through the hell we've gone through to understand just how important treatment is to SAVING LIVES!!


Yes! This right here. The answer to me seems like a no-brainer. This is a job for professionals...not politicians. Look at the success rates among abstinence based programs and compare them to MAT. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out which one works.


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I agree 100%!!!! Totally agree :)

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[quote="OpenMind"]
Medical interventions such as buprenorphine must be available as part of a comprehensive treatment program to as many that need it, or we're going to continue to watch the body count rise higher and higher. We need to change the way we see and deal with addiction fundamentally if we're going to have a chance.

^^^THIS! There should be no limits for doctors on the amount of people they treat with Bupe. I wonder what would happen if EVERY opiate addicted individual that went to prison had access to Bupe? I suspect the relapse rate after incarceration would go down significantly (hope so at least).

I feel very lucky to have one of those doctors that can treat me. I wish it for all opiate addicted people & their families.

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I remember the Chinese revolution, where most of them were addictive and with the system of punishment things will change for them forever. Now they become power.


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Just thought I would chime in here to say that ...THIS makes me want to keep stockpiling my meds just in case something goes side-ways with the MAT programs.

I truly do NOT think these new appointed officials will torpedo the MAT Programs, but I always am prepared for the worst.

So everyone, please vote and stay active in your research on current topics concerning the "War of Drugs" ( cough, eye roll)


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