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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:15 pm 
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Okay Apparently how things are done around here is to start with a little background....

Ill try to keep this short and simple..

My name is Chris and i am 21 years old. I have been abusing drugs since i was 14. My downfall was that my mother has Multiple Sclerosis. The sad part is i Found out very quickly what those oxycontin pills she had, did. I would take them occasionaly. When I was about 18/19 my friend introduced me to heroin. I started smoking it (black tar here in Arizona). I fell in love. I did it alot. I ended up going to a rehab 30 day program and got kicked out with 2 other people because we used. I was in full on withdrawal and my roomate pulled out a needle full of H..needless to say i stuck out my arm and told her to hit me. That was the first time i shot up and the last for along time. After I got kicked out my mom picked me up and took me directly to another 5 day detox place because if i didnt get clean i couldnt come home. They kept me on a steady dose of klonopin and subutex. After i got out of that detox i met up with a doctor and got prescirbed subutex. I was on it about a year and a half. I was taking aprox 24 mg a day mayb less somedays. I ended up going to wisconsin (where im from) and i started sharing subs with my girlfriend (who wasnt an addict jus tliked the feeling) and my script went quick. Needless to say I had to C/T at 16mg a day maybe more. I can't lie it was absolutely terrible. I litterally did not sleep good for 17 days and my father kept telling me it was in my head (I wanted to KILL HIM LOL). It was hell on earth forsure but it was bad enough to keep me from using for a couple years. Now I came back from wisconsin last october 28th and almost immediately started gaining entry into my moms lockbox and stealing her methadone. It got to the point that if i didnt have it would get sick ( not even taking it everyday after about 2 months). I Ended up feeling terrible because my mom was starting to go into w/d and just didnt even realise it. I ended up telling her the truth and she was understandably upset but agreed to help me. Around this same time my friend who got me to do heroin my first time got off his methadone cuz his parents refused to keep paying. So we were both in the same boat and we started becoming teamates to get heroin. I started shooting and ended up getting fired form my job and spending around 2,000 the last 3 months. I dont know what to do. Now i have decided 100% to get off of this crap and get my life back. Thank God my mother got me about 5 clonodine and 5 xanax 1mg from her friend. I know its not alot but hey we take what we can get.

My mom also got me some subutex..about 4 and there is i think 2 1/2 or 3 left. I have been tapering majorly..Today i took about 1mg and the day before 2. I have had some serious discomfort (I.E.=leg pains,insomnia,restlessness,anxiety) during the transition from heroin to subs and throughtout this couple day taper. I realize Because i have such few subs i am going to feel some discomfort. I have about 2 1/2 left and i am down to 1mg so I think i can taper myself pretty well. My goal is to get down to at least .25 or lower and take crumbs as needed...please if anyone could help me with a taper chart or there experience with this. I need some serious help so i can make a solid plan.

SUPPLIES: 2 1/2 or 3 8mg subutex
5 Clonodine .1 mg
5 Xanax 1mg

Is there any way i can make this work? :shock:

Thanks guys,

Chris

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I understand my situation is "unique" at best. I know im not in the same position with starting because of pain or what not but we are all on this and someday we all have to get off..(well most of us). Please if anything just read the bottom part and advice would be greatly appreciated. Anything even a goodluck chris haha. this is not easy by any means.

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c0ngd0n: Sorry for the lack of responses to your post. However, I'm guessing that none of us really know what to say to you. What is it you are trying to ask us? We can't possibly be your "Internet physician" or addiction specialist. And that is what you really need. Probably the best advice I can give you is you can't do this on your own. There is really next to zero chance that you can stay off of drugs without professional help. Of the regular people that post here, pretty much all of them are taking part in a formal program for their sobriety that includes the help of professionals.

I know that you want to be able to try to treat yourself with whatever chemicals you can get your hands on, but think about that for a second, is that not what you have been doing for the past several years - taking whatever chemicals you can get your hands on? I'll be happy to wish you good luck, but that really is not going to do it. What I wish for you is to get yourself into see a physician who can prescribe Suboxone to you and provide the necessary resources for you. That really is the only chance you have at staying off of drugs for any length of time into the future.

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I am down to a half of 1mg. so .5 a day. It has not been an easy ride by any means.

I got called today to do a job that is at night so that will help..seein as night is the worst usually.

I understand i cannot do this by myself. I was prescribed subutex for a year and half a few years ago. I dont want to get back on it. The reason i couldnt quit is because i didnt want to. I am truely ready. I will do whatever it takes to stop. I will go to outpatient treatment, meetings..anything. But i will not get a regular script of subs. You are right. the past couple years i have done whatever chemical i could get my hands on. Anything really. The difference is I could smoke weed/drink in moderation. I've never needed anything to feel normal. That is why i started to abuse opiates. After doing methadone every couple days i stopped and got sick so i kept doing it and it got worse. I understand the cycle of addiction. I understand i am an addict. I will seriously do whatever i have to stay off opiates and everything else. Thanks for your imput. I know there isnt much you can say.

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