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Is it ok to use marijuana recreationally while in recovery for drug addiction?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:23 pm 
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Ok, here is another topic I have seen some disagreement on and again would like to get an understanding where everyone stands. Do you think it is ok for someone to smoke weed recreationally while in recovery form another addiction?

I am not sure, I go back and forth on this topic and honestly see both sides.


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I too see both sides.MJ isnt something that appeals to me but why not? Its all natural...right? As long as its not abused,I dont see a problem with that.I dont view MJ as a narcotic,its kinda in a category all its own.Hey,we are in recovery but you gotta live too and if its used responsibly then go for it.

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Breezy_Ann wrote:
Ok, here is another topic I have seen some disagreement on and again would like to get an understanding where everyone stands. Do you think it is ok for someone to smoke weed recreationally while in recovery form another addiction?

I am not sure, I go back and forth on this topic and honestly see both sides.



Well, my vote is cast, and I voted for "not sure- I see both sides of the argument."

I have smoked weed "recreationally" while being in recovery and on subs; and I can honestly say that *for me*,
I feel that it hampered and held back my recovery a bit.
Smoking it dampened my motivation and increased my (already big) appetite.
As well, to obtain the pot, I had to go to places and into environments that were not exactly "good" for my recovery-
and associate with people who were usually in active addiction, and therefore, were also not "good" for my recovery.

However, I do not judge other people who choose to smoke weed while in recovery.

That's about all that I really have to say about this issue at the moment.

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I was very deep into this culture as well as the glass art culture that follows this. I have been to Amsterdam 4 times for the cannabis cup, lived on and off in Cali. With a medical card because I used my aunt’s house as residency and well that is how easy it was to get a card 7 years ago out there, as well visiting Canada on and off for their cannabis cup they do as well. So I was very deep into this culture I see both sides of the argument and understand both sides, I even did a huge 12 page paper on this for one of my chemical dependency classes at school, Basically the pros and cons of medical marijuana VS legalization. I smoked for 10 years of my life and for the first 3 and a half of my time on suboxone as well. Till I came to the realization that I cannot truly consider myself clean and in recovery if I am using any illegal drugs, even now if NY State legalized medical MMJ I would not smoke even though I could benefit from it very much in a couple aspects of my health. I just don’t think it is smart for a person in recovery to be smoking weed because we need our mind to be as free and clear as possible and no matter what MMJ is a mind altering drug and as recovering addicts that can be very dangerous for us. Because while high we will not think the same way as if we are sober which in turn can turn into some very bad decisions while our mind is altered. And something’s we would never do sober we might just do high, and that is what scares me about recovering addicts smoking weed medical or not.

But your question is can we smoke weed recreationally and you did not mention smoking weed lagally with a script. Which is basically asking is it ok to do illegal drugs and that is a no all together because I don’t think it is ok to do illegal drugs anymore.

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As a heavy smoker (From wake n bake til sleep) every day since 1993, you'd think I'd be an advocate for weed. If I wasn't trying to get myself cleaned up, I'd be all for it. I think they should make it legal. I see no harm in using it, if you are not driving, operating machinery, etc. If you stay home, and don't have to take care or kids, or important things, then I say yes, but NOT while you are try8ing to get clean from opioids. You are only enabling yourself to do the same harmful habits from before.....

And anyhow, my doctor checks my urine anyways, so there's no way I could smoke. I quit on April 10th, this year, and because I'd been such a heavy smoker, it took 144 days before my urine test FINALLY came up clean. That is nearly FIVE months, you guys.

If weed is your only vice, them I would be for it. It just depends on a lot of things also, your situation, your finances....and it IS illegal still, darnit, whereas prescription painkillers are not. And pot is NOT physically addictive, nor can you overdose on it. It does have it's good redeeming factors. :)


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As a heavy smoker (From wake n bake til sleep) every day since 1993, you'd think I'd be an advocate for weed. If I wasn't trying to get myself cleaned up, I'd be all for it. I think they should make it legal. I see no harm in using it, if you are not driving, operating machinery, etc. If you stay home, and don't have to take care or kids, or important things, then I say yes, but NOT while you are try8ing to get clean from opioids. You are only enabling yourself to do the same harmful habits from before.....

And anyhow, my doctor checks my urine anyways, so there's no way I could smoke. I quit on April 10th, this year, and because I'd been such a heavy smoker, it took 144 days before my urine test FINALLY came up clean. That is nearly FIVE months, you guys.

If weed is your only vice, them I would be for it. It just depends on a lot of things also, your situation, your finances....and it IS illegal still, darnit, whereas prescription painkillers are not. And pot is NOT physically addictive, nor can you overdose on it. It does have it's good redeeming factors. :)


Well said that would be a perfect word to sum up what i was trying to say "enabling"!!!!!!

lol i thought my 3 and a half months was bad but 5 shit you got me beat lol 8)

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Hi Bboy, yes I said recreationally because I believe marijuana has a place in medicine and I did not want to include it as a medicine that is legitimately prescribed and used. Now we all know there are people who manage to get it prescribed for no other reason tham to be able to get high. So I would call the people that do that recreational even though they have a script. I used to be an everyday pot smoker but I have probably done it once a year for the last 6 years. I do think it should be legalized and taxed.

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Personally, I'd consider it to be Not OK to smoke weed in recovery.

Would I give myself a hard time if I had a few tokes at a party? No. We all make mistakes.

I just think that the motivation behind smoking weed is very similar to using opiates - to escape the real world. And recovery is really about learning to cope with the real world without needing to escape.

So anything that's about escape - fighting, gambling, excessive pornography, drinking - is not OK for my recovery. But I wouldn't beat myself up too much for straying. Nobody's a 100% angel :evil:

Would I give another person a hard time for smoking weed in recovery? No. Another person's recovery is their business.


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Breezy_Ann wrote:
Hi Bboy, yes I said recreationally because I believe marijuana has a place in medicine and I did not want to include it as a medicine that is legitimately prescribed and used. Now we all know there are people who manage to get it prescribed for no other reason tham to be able to get high. So I would call the people that do that recreational even though they have a script. I used to be an everyday pot smoker but I have probably done it once a year for the last 6 years. I do think it should be legalized and taxed.

Thank you everyone for your comments!


Breezy it is ok i was joking about that just a lil humor.

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Hey Bboy, I knew you didn't mean anything from your post, it just made me realize I didn't explain why I wrote recreationally so I thought I would post why I didn't include medical marijauna. Re-reading my post it does sound like I was being a bit defensive but that was not my intention. So no worries!


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I voted "yes."

Now if you changed the question to "Is it IDEAL for people in recovery to smoke pot," I might have a different answer for you.

I smoke a lot of marijuana. Before, I shot a lot of dope. I think what I do now is better. I am doing well in school, I do freelance editing on the side, and while I have had 4-5 relapses in the 14 months since starting Suboxone (so maybe I am not as "successful" as someone who hasn't had any in over a year), the last three relapses have been literally one-shot deals. Did it once, realized how dumb it was, and then happily went back to simply smoking. So I don't agree with NA's position that marijuana is a one way road back to insta-addiction.

However, I don't think that smoking pot is preferable to not using any substances at all. I think it is a lesser evil than the other drugs, and if it can be kept to just pot, you are doing fine. If all you do is smoke pot and nothing else, well, that isn't any better than being addicted to anything else!


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melijm wrote:
Its all natural...right?


Unfortunately, the majority of weed (at least in my country) is not all natural. If only you could see the kinda crap they feed the hydro plants. And you can taste the chemicals too. It's really quite nasty. There's also the fact the majority of bud has had specialised breeding to the point where it's almost unrecognisable to the marijuana in the wild. The alkaloid's are purposely left unbalanced to create a stronger stone, which unfortunately also leads to mental health issues, paranoia, and a scattered, anxious stone. Some marijuana's alkaloids are so unbalanced that even experienced smokers don't wanna be in public after smoking it.

Did you know that the 2nd strongest alkaloid in marijuana, CBD, is actually a natural anti-psychotic? They believe that the reason marijuana is now linked to psychosis is because most marijuana in the criminal market is bred to have low CBD, high THC.

Weeds ain't weeds, saul.


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I WISH I could smoke, and categorize it as "not fair" that I'm unable because of multiple urine tests I take (one for my outpatient therapy and one for my sub doc). Before I kicked my opiate/alcohol habit, I only smoked a couple times a week, always at home, usually before I went to bed to relax and meditate or sometimes for fun on a Saturday afternoon before watching a stoner flick with a bag of cookies. It also boosted my creativity and as an artistic person I find that uhh somewhat important to my lifestyle! I'm doing fine without it, but to have the option taken away when it isn't even a problem drug for me ticks me off.


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I picked the last answer because its closest to how I feel. Its not a simple yes or no question. Do I think it is okay to try to see how cannabis effects you while on Subs? Yes. Do I think it should be a daily thing? No. I also feel that you should have some significant time off of everything "illicit" before you try smoking. This will allow you to get the full picture of how Marijuana effects you, not just in the few hours, but also to see if it makes you hazy the next day.

Now, I have smoked lots of weed. I usually enjoyed it. I have smoked all types from bubble hash to schwag. I have not smoked since I stopped using though. Its been over a year, and I never had a problem stopping smoking. I have told myself that in the next year 2012, I will be open to trying a puff or two of weed, if the situation is right. Now that situation would have to be, on a weekend, away from home and with some friends. I don't think its a good idea for me to purchase a bag of weed as I don't want that temptation. I am also open to having a beer or two. Its all experimentation.

You have to be really honest with yourself. See if it is in your best interests and if/how it could grow into an issue. I am not a stepper, so if I were to have a puff or sip it would not be some massive moral failure to me. What is important is that I stick to my goals/vows. I had a goal of a year totally substance free besides meds. I have met that goal. I set a new goal to not use anything besides meds until New Years. When I reach that day I will see how I feel. I might extend my "sober time" or might say now it is okay to SEE if you can have a puff or beer.


Now obviously marijuana can cause anxiety. I know that for myself, if I went and sneaked a toke in a place/time when I wasn't supposed to that I would immediately freak out and that it would not be enjoyable. I cannot use marijuana to "escape" from problems (on its own). There would be possible consequences and I would be upset with myself for placing me at risk of those consequences.

So I guess my answer is it depends on the person, that you have to have some decent "clean time" first and you have to be very honest with yourself.


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Im on the fence as well,,,like most of the posts already on here.
I was a daily smoker too,, when I was using. It also took me over three months before my urine test came back with no mj in it. I was very honest with my doc, when I started seeing him, and the amount in my urine test was always LESS each time, so Im pretty sure thats the only reason he was okay with it.
It wasn't hard for me to give up the weed. i just passd 7 months off the junk yesterday, and my doc hasnt tested me for about 3 months. so smoking a J has definitely been on my mind lately. I just dunno if Im ready. Im scared that I'll feel incredibly guilty afterwards for some reason.
I used to love to get stoned and play with my son. He'l be three next month, and he was always so much fun to play with when I was stoned. but He's funny without me being stoned too.........
I too, think mj should be legal, and taxed. I feel like the only reason they call it a "gateway" drug, is becuase it IS when you get weed from the same person you get oxys or coke from. so if it were legal, there wouldnt be oxys and coke (not the soda) on the shelf by the joints!!
ANyways that's my two cents. my husband has his medical mj card, and he did quit smoking around me the first two months of me going on subs, to make it easier for me, and asked my permission before starting agian. but i dont think about weed that much, I always liked the harder shit more, even as a teenager I smoked crack before I ever smoked a joint at 15.......go figure
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